South Side Hit Men Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) First game during Hahn Tanking 2.0 Era. White Sox are a slight underdog (Pick vs. -110 Bibee via Wynn), think the +180 - 1 1/2 run line the better value if backing the Sox. Over 90F an hour before gametime so the ball could continue jumping despite the anemic offenses of both teams. Sammy Peralta is back to replace Giolito and Lopez. They are not bothering to fill the other spot today. Par for the course in the Hahn era. Edited July 27, 2023 by South Side Hit Men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Well, we've got a game. I would think that the Guardians will be disappointed with anything less than 3/4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 I’m still blown away we have so many former top 10 to 20 prospects and the lineup is absolute garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) I know this might be unpopular, but I think Cease is what his ERA says he is outside of 2022. Also, he throws 94-95 now and no longer has plus velo in this day and age. I think WAR overrates Cease. He's basically Rich Harden if he stayed healthy. So if someone wants to trade a haul for him, be my guest. Edited July 28, 2023 by baseballgalaly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 minute ago, baseballgalaly said: I know this might be unpopular, but I think Cease is what his ERA says he is outside of 2022. Also, he throws 94-95 now and no longer has plus velo in this day and age. I think WAR overrates Cease. He's basically Rich Harden if he stayed healthy. He absolutely needs to be traded. Can’t believe his fastball to start the game was 93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, fathom said: He absolutely needs to be traded. Can’t believe his fastball to start the game was 93 Like now, before he loses his s%*#. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 It’s incredible how Guardians pitchers gain velocity in their system and Sox guys lose theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, fathom said: It’s incredible how Guardians pitchers gain velocity in their system and Sox guys lose theirs. I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, baseballgalaly said: I know this might be unpopular, but I think Cease is what his ERA says he is outside of 2022. Also, he throws 94-95 now and no longer has plus velo in this day and age. I think WAR overrates Cease. He's basically Rich Harden if he stayed healthy. So if someone wants to trade a haul for him, be my guest. Cease hasn't missed a turn through the rotation since debuting in the majors. We complain about injuries all of the time, but Cease is as dependable as they come. For that reason alone don't think WAR overrates him. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, fathom said: It’s incredible how Guardians pitchers gain velocity in their system and Sox guys lose theirs. Player development is the biggest inefficiency in baseball right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 His velocity is awful tonight, not sure what’s going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 28, 2023 Author Share Posted July 28, 2023 Nice getting out of it. That said, Sox need to starting hitting, zero for over six innings (Yoan's hit in the 4th yesterday their last one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Here we go with the bunting/base running attack. The Guardians are now the 2001-2010 Piranhas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Cease is getting destroyed. This feels like rock bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Naylor almost hitting .500 in his career at GRF...crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 The further Cease gets away from 2022, the more his value drops. Trade him, Rick. Idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, baseballgalaly said: The further Cease gets away from 2022, the more his value drops. Trade him, Rick. Idiots. That stupid idiot thinks he can help them contend next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, fathom said: Cease is getting destroyed. This feels like rock bottom That would be injuries to Cease and/or Robert...or a Hahn extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 I wonder how many games the White Sox will lose this year? I’m thinking 110. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, chetkincaid said: I wonder how many games the White Sox will lose this year? I’m thinking 110. Nice of them to show up against their 3 biggest rivals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 minute ago, fathom said: That stupid idiot thinks he can help them contend next year Would not shock me if Cease looks a lot like Kopech next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, fathom said: Cease is getting destroyed. This feels like rock bottom Rock bottom would've been a 3 game sweep by the Cubs. I realized tonight it was only a 2 game series. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Since June Cease has the third best WHIP rate in the majors and an ERA of just over 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 The pitch calling was comically bad here. Keep calling the curve, as he had no command of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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