5 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said:

Which team is #30?

Starts with C ends with ockies

Wait who are the Cockies

39 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

Wait who are the Cockies

The White Sox front office...

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25412288-mlb-power-ranking-all-30-teams-after-2026-opening-weekend&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwj4reqE28-TAxUeiO4BHZewKkcQFnoECBQQAg&usg=AOvVaw0buXiacv_F9AnjliaQUtDm

White Sox fall to 30th, behind Rockies for the moment...congrats to DePodesta, I guess.

https://www.fangraphs.com/standings/playoff-odds/fg/lg

While Sox down to 0.5% playoff odds.

Nationals 0.8%, Rockies 0.0% and Angels at 3.6% the ONLY MLB teams below at least 10% or higher.

Edited April 2Apr 2 by caulfield12

This team is bad - offense will be better than it has been but the pitching staff is horrendous. With that said - I think by trade deadline they will at least be interesting to watch as we hopefully see some of their younger pitching prospects and a few more quality positional prospects graduate to the show. I still think we are talking about 29 at the absolute soonest at competing for a wild card and that is a huge squint and hope for a Ishibia injection.

The minor league system is at least promising and there are a number of recent picks who are at least not already worthless which is something…we shall see - hopefully we seee growth from The young / newer guys on MLb roster and a lot of good development and progress in minors.

But If everything goes well I think we will have Thorpe, Schultz, Smith and McDougall in the rotation in 2nd half of the year and that is a heck of a lot more interesting than anything they have right now…

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45 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:

This team is bad - offense will be better than it has been but the pitching staff is horrendous. With that said - I think by trade deadline they will at least be interesting to watch as we hopefully see some of their younger pitching prospects and a few more quality positional prospects graduate to the show. I still think we are talking about 29 at the absolute soonest at competing for a wild card and that is a huge squint and hope for a Ishibia injection.

The minor league system is at least promising and there are a number of recent picks who are at least not already worthless which is something…we shall see - hopefully we seee growth from The young / newer guys on MLb roster and a lot of good development and progress in minors.

But If everything goes well I think we will have Thorpe, Schultz, Smith and McDougall in the rotation in 2nd half of the year and that is a heck of a lot more interesting than anything they have right now…

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/twins-vs-royals/2026/04/02/824133/final/wrap

Watched a lot of Taj Bradley throwing 97-100 his first two games out.

Great pick up by Twins. With Ryan (for now) and Ober, they are just head and shoulders ahead of the Sox.

Same with young CLE pitching and obviously DET until Skubal departs.

3 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:

This team is bad - offense will be better than it has been but the pitching staff is horrendous. With that said - I think by trade deadline they will at least be interesting to watch as we hopefully see some of their younger pitching prospects and a few more quality positional prospects graduate to the show. I still think we are talking about 29 at the absolute soonest at competing for a wild card and that is a huge squint and hope for a Ishibia injection.

The minor league system is at least promising and there are a number of recent picks who are at least not already worthless which is something…we shall see - hopefully we seee growth from The young / newer guys on MLb roster and a lot of good development and progress in minors.

But If everything goes well I think we will have Thorpe, Schultz, Smith and McDougall in the rotation in 2nd half of the year and that is a heck of a lot more interesting than anything they have right now…

I've been thinking about this myself and I'd keep those guys in the minors through the rest of the season.

Why start their service clock for another lost season?

And what really are they going to learn being in an environment where losing is the norm and the team is basically composed of a number of has-been's, stiffs and retreads?

Anything can happen over the winter, you never know Ishbia may be taking over, but over and above this, with the distinct probability of a lockout/shutdown extending into the regular season in 2027, again why bring these guys up, only have them have to sit out part or all of next year? They need experience and the minor leagues at least can keep giving them that in the event a portion or large portion of 2027 is lost. If they play some next year you can bring them up then.

Until then, play it safe, keep then in the minor leagues.

Edited April 3Apr 3 by Lip Man 1

23 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

I've been thinking about this myself and I'd keep those guys in the minors through the rest of the season.

Why start their service clock for another lost season?

And what really are they going to learn being in an environment where losing is the norm and the team is basically composed of a number of has-been's, stiffs and retreads?

Anything can happen over the winter, you never know Ishbia may be taking over, but over and above this, with the distinct probability of a lockout/shutdown extending into the regular season in 2027, again why bring these guys up, only have them have to sit out part or all of next year? They need experience and the minor leagues at least can keep giving them that in the event a portion or large portion of 2027 is lost. If they play some next year you can bring them up then.

Until then, play it safe, keep then in the minor leagues.

As long as they are up after April 14th there is no lost service time

Guess you can compare it to the Braves when Avery Smoltz Glavine first came up....they took their lumps big time for ax season or two.

Some might argue if a pitcher can survive Charlotte in one piece...they should be ready for the big leagues.

47 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

I've been thinking about this myself and I'd keep those guys in the minors through the rest of the season.

Why start their service clock for another lost season?

And what really are they going to learn being in an environment where losing is the norm and the team is basically composed of a number of has-been's, stiffs and retreads?

Anything can happen over the winter, you never know Ishbia may be taking over, but over and above this, with the distinct probability of a lockout/shutdown extending into the regular season in 2027, again why bring these guys up, only have them have to sit out part or all of next year? They need experience and the minor leagues at least can keep giving them that in the event a portion or large portion of 2027 is lost. If they play some next year you can bring them up then.

Until then, play it safe, keep then in the minor leagues.

That's also a description of Charlotte. The avg age of those players are about 26.

Birmingham is the one that has a winning environment.

But I think it's about those guys having more success before calling them up,

Hopefully the Sox blueprint isn't calling guys up and have them sit the bench. We've seen that before.

2 hours ago, DoUEvenShift said:

As long as they are up after April 14th there is no lost service time

The service time still begins is my point and eventually that translates to free agency. Especially if JR is still walking around.

If someone is keeping track of stats we are last in -

3 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

If someone is keeping track of stats we are last in -

Definitely promoting the director of player development of that team!

3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Definitely promoting the director of player development of that team!

With little to no signs of improving the big league team in three offseasons in charge.

44 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

With little to no signs of improving the big league team in three offseasons in charge.

Again I ask those who are in the camp of 'defending' him, at what point does everyone admit his promotion was a failure and should never have been done?

Even given JR's limitations, should a team be this bad for this long?

I mean how long should we have to wait for progress? Four years? Six? I'm just looking for a benchmark.

1 hour ago, DoUEvenShift said:

If someone is keeping track of stats we are last in -

The dreaded “Show more”

12 minutes ago, Snopek said:

The dreaded “Show more”

Look at the top teams on that list.

Almost all playoff teams.

Minnesota has always been better with scouting/development.

Pirates the most promising "bandwagon" team.

Colorado the only one in top half that could be described as foundering.

Braves near bottom is interesting.

But their intl guys like Acuna...

Another great chart would be career fWAR of intl players ranked by cumulative fWAR by original team of signing.

18 minutes ago, Snopek said:

The dreaded “Show more”

SHOW ANYTHING.

1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Again I ask those who are in the camp of 'defending' him, at what point does everyone admit his promotion was a failure and should never have been done?

Even given JR's limitations, should a team be this bad for this long?

I mean how long should we have to wait for progress? Four years? Six? I'm just looking for a benchmark.

When JR no longer owns the team.

2 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Again I ask those who are in the camp of 'defending' him, at what point does everyone admit his promotion was a failure and should never have been done?

Even given JR's limitations, should a team be this bad for this long?

I mean how long should we have to wait for progress? Four years? Six? I'm just looking for a benchmark.

After he gets fired in a decade and people blame him for everything.

Currently 4-8. On pace for a 54-108 record.

Fire Getz.

Would love to know just how bad it has to get for him to lose his job. If they threaten the loss record again, you have to make a change. He’s shown no ability to scout professional talent.

20 minutes ago, fathom said:

Would love to know just how bad it has to get for him to lose his job. If they threaten the loss record again, you have to make a change. He’s shown no ability to scout professional talent.

“But it’s a rebuild…“

Rinse and repeat for three more years.

2 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

“But it’s a rebuild…“

Rinse and repeat for three more years.

The idea that it takes time to change things organization wide buys him endless time....and why does the MLB club still have to suck? If he cannot evaluate MLB talent that is a big damn problem.