Bob Sacamano Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Posted because maybe relevant I guess. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/david-rubenstein-reportedly-in-talks-to-acquire-baltimore-orioles.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Angelos deciding he'd rather sell than spend money/face backlash about not spending money. So...Angelos is good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Quin said: Angelos deciding he'd rather sell than spend money/face backlash about not spending money. So...Angelos is good? I kinda wonder if this regional sports network thing has created too much uncertainty for the money squeezed owners and we may see them sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 4 hours ago, bmags said: I kinda wonder if this regional sports network thing has created too much uncertainty for the money squeezed owners and we may see them sell. Uncertain revenue streams will scare owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I never knew a founder of a multinational private equity, alternative asset and financial management service corporation did so well. Must be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, wegner said: I never knew a founder of a multinational private equity, alternative asset and financial management service corporation did so well. Must be nice. Pat Croce started out as the PT and rehab coordinator for the Flyers. Then opened a bunch of PT clinics and mage enough to buy the 76ers. Should have gone in with him early on Edited December 8, 2023 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, ptatc said: Pat Croce started out as the PT and rehab coordinator for the Flyers. Then opened a bunch of PT clinics and mage enough to buy the 76ers. Should have gone in with him early on I wish you would have too if that means you could buy out Uncle Jerry.....I mean it would've been nice for your family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 28 minutes ago, wegner said: I wish you would have too if that means you could buy out Uncle Jerry.....I mean it would've been nice for your family. That would have been fun. Not sure I could handle the criticism though. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, ptatc said: That would have been fun. Not sure I could handle the criticism though. 😁 I'm sure it would be sunshine and lollipops on Soxtalk if you were in charge.....I'd probably stay outta the game threads though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 hour ago, wegner said: I never knew a founder of a multinational private equity, alternative asset and financial management service corporation did so well. Must be nice. Cohen with the Mets would be another, although on a whole DIFFERENT scale in numerous billions under management... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marqhead Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 So is this guy going to be a good owner? Cause I think the Os are my team when the Sox skip town. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Marqhead said: So is this guy going to be a good owner? Cause I think the Os are my team when the Sox skip town. Nobody knows. Depends on how much he interferes...how much he trusts his own baseball people that he brings in...and how much the analytics team from a financier's standpoint can leverage "real world baseball success" from computer models/algorithms/simulations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Nobody knows. Depends on how much he interferes...how much he trusts his own baseball people that he brings in...and how much the analytics team from a financier's standpoint can leverage "real world baseball success" from computer models/algorithms/simulations. Just do the opposite of what we do then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Marqhead said: So is this guy going to be a good owner? Cause I think the Os are my team when the Sox skip town. I doubt it. the only "good owners" are the ones who don't care about extracting as much profit as possible, but buy the franchise for the prestige or because they're genuine fans of the sport and have enough money already (few and far between, especially in baseball). Something tells me that the private equity guy with no history of baseball fandom doesn't actually care about anything more than the potential profit. He'll do what every other private equity firm does: own the company for a couple of years, build shareholder value, then sell the team at a gain. Spending on players doesn't factor into that in a market like Baltimore. Edited December 8, 2023 by nrockway 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 you could come visit his restaurant here in Hyde Park, BARDAVID, and spend $21 on a cheeseburger. seems like a con artist to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Peter Angelos is one of six current ownership groups with four or more Bottom Three Pay rolls. Good Riddance. The Shameful Six - Current Owners with Four + Bottom 3 MLB Payrolls: 13 Stuart Sternberg Tampa Bay Rays 6 Bob Nutting Pittsburgh Pirates 6 John FIsher Oakland Athletics 5 Jim Crane Houston Astros 4 Peter Angelos Baltimore Orioles 4 Jerry Reinsdorf Chicago White Sox Eleven MLB Teams which have not fielded a Bottom Three Payroll over the past 40 years (1984-2023): Atlanta MLB Team Boston Red Sox Chicago Cubs Cincinnati Reds Detroit Tigers Los Angeles Angels Los Angeles Dodgers New York Yankees Saint Louis Cardinals San Francisco Giants Toronto Blue Jays MLB Bottom Three Payroll Teams over the past 40 years (1984-2023): (1) Arizona Diamondbacks Jerry Colangelo 1998-2004 Ken Kendrick 2005-Current 2016 (6) Baltimore Orioles Edward Williams 1979-1988 Eli Jacobs 1989-1993 1990; 1991 Peter Angelos 1994-Current 2019; 2020; 2021; 2022 (4) Chicago White Sox Jerry Reinsdorf 1981-Current 1988; 1989; 1990; 2018 (7) Cleveland Guardians Estate of Steve O'Neill 1984-1986 1984; 1985; 1986 Richard Jacobs 1987-1999 1991; 1992; 1993 Larry Dolan 2000-Current 2021 (2) Colorado Rockies Jerry McMorris 1993-2004 1993 Charlie Monfort 2005-2010 2006 Dick Monfort 2011-Current (13) Florida / Miami Marlins Wayne Huizenga 1993-1998 1994; 1998 John Henry 1999-2001 1999; 2000 Jeffrey Loria 2002-2017 2006; 2007; 2008; 2009; 2013; 2014; 2015 Bruce Sherman 2018-Current 2019; 2020 (7) Houston Astros John McMullen 1979-1991 1991 Drayton McLane 1992-2011 1992 Jim Crane 2012-Current 2012; 2013; 2014; 2015; 2016 (4) Kansas City Royals Ewing Kauffman 1967-1993 Ewing Kauffman Estate 1994-2000 David Glass 2000-2019 2000; 2003; 2005; 2011 John Sherman 2020-Current (4) Milwaukee Brewers Bud Selig 1970-1998 1996 Wendy Selig-Prieb 1999-2004 2003; 2004 Mark Attanasio 2005-Current 2017 (5) Minnesota Twins Carl Pohlad 1984-2008 1984; 1995; 1999; 2000; 2001 Jim Pohlad 2009-Current (9) Montreal Expos Charles Bronfman 1969-1990 Claude Brochu 1991-1998 1992; 1994; 1995; 1996; 1997; 1998 Jeffery Loria 1999-2001 1999; 2001 Major League Baseball 2002-2004 2002 (1) New York Mets Doubleday & Company 1980-1985 Nelson Doubleday Jr. & Fred Wilpon 1986-2002 1995 Fred Wilpon 2003-2020 Steve Cohen 2021-Current (9) Oakland Athletics Walter Haas Junior 1981-1995 Stephen Schott & Ken Hofmann 1996-2004 1997; 2001; 2002 John Fisher 2005-Current 2008; 2010; 2012; 2018; 2022; 2023 (1) Philadelphia Phillies William Giles 1981-1997 1989 David Montgomery 1998-2014 John Middleton 2015-Current (12) Pittsburgh Pirates John Galbreath 1946-1985 Pittsburgh Associates 1986-1995 1987 Kevin McClatchy 1996-2006 1996; 1997; 1998; 2004; 2005 Bob Nutting 2007-Current 2009; 2010; 2020; 2021; 2022; 2023 (7) San Diego Padres Ray Kroc 1974-1983 Joan Kroc 1984-1990 Tom Wemer 1991-1994 1993; 1994 John Moores 1995-2012 2009; 2010; 2011; 2012 Ron Fowler 2013-2020 2017 Peter Seidler 2021-2023 (7) Seattle Mariners George Argyros 1981-1989 1984; 1985; 1986; 1987; 1988; 1989 Jeff Smulyan 1990-1992 1990 John Ellis 1993-2016 John Stanton 2017-Current (16) Tampa Bay Rays Vincent Naimoli 1998-2004 2002; 2003; 2004 Stuart Sternberg 2005-Current 2005; 2006; 2007; 2008; 2011; 2013; 2014; 2015; 2016; 2017; 2018; 2019; 2023 (4) Texas Rangers Eddie Chiles 1980-1988 1985; 1986; 1987; 1988 George Bush 1989-1994 Tom Schieffer 1995-1998 Tom Hicks 1999-2010 Ray C. Davis 2010-Current (1) Washington Nationals Major League Baseball 2005-2006 Ted Lerner 2007-2018 2007 Mark Lerner 2019-Current 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) On 12/8/2023 at 4:02 AM, Bob Sacamano said: Posted because maybe relevant I guess. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/david-rubenstein-reportedly-in-talks-to-acquire-baltimore-orioles.html Great thread!!! I guess you did start a thread, after all. Good stuff. Not exactly a page turner, but a thread nonetheless. Edited December 12, 2023 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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