March 11, 20251 yr 14 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said: I just don’t think there is a need to rush Colson to be on the Opening Day roster. It would be different if the team was competing for something and/or he was lighting up spring training. Neither of those things are true. They might as well take their time with him. But is it even rushing him, at this point? They may have seen enough in the last 6 weeks of last year to know they don't need a month of him blasting HRs in a bandbox to learn anything new. However, setting him up against major league pitchers, they could expose a part of his game they drop him back to AAA to work out, then bring him up for the last 2-3 months, a la 2024 Dominic Fletcher. Voila! You have an extra year of control!
March 11, 20251 yr 7 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said: They just announced Colson has been optioned to AAA. So much for that. Haha. That's good. Let him get ready for the season there as he has missed a good chunk of time.
March 11, 20251 yr 7 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Do you feel Monty's a 4-6 WAR shortstop going forward? Keith Law has written about how when talking to scouts about him, a collective opinion was that he didn't even look like a top 100 prospect. I get it, the back injury could have seriously hampered him in all aspects of his game. I'm even willing to say that as his growth stabilizes and they pay more attention to stretching and training, he could be *a* guy. I don't think he's Bobby Witt Jr. He's not going to be a perennial MVP dude. But he doesn't have to be. If he's a solid guy who hits and doesn't embarrass himself in the field, that's a clear win from the 22nd pick in his draft year. The power could play in a corner, and that's a nice guy to have for 6+ years. I just don't think he's "the franchise" anymore. That's over. I don’t think he will ever be Bobby Witt Jr. either. But like you said, he doesn’t have to be Bobby Witt Jr. to be a productive player and integral piece on this team. I’m hoping that they rely less on these prospects with the revamped farm system and Ishbia potentially coming in. That was the problem with the last rebuild. They were banking on Moncada, Eloy, etc to all be stars for it to work. When that didn’t happen, they were screwed.
March 11, 20251 yr 6 minutes ago, ptatc said: I disagree. I think they will be added in the at minimum shortened season for 2027. Plus what they get for Robert. The Robert return has already crashed to the point where it sounds like we aren't getting a front line player for him. Maybe a starter or two, but something big? Sure doesn't sound like it. That leaves us our own Dev, which takes a lot of time, if ever... Our drafting, which takes time, and Free agency, which isn't happening while Jerry is the controlling partner and this team sucks. Again, I dont' see it.
March 11, 20251 yr 14 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said: They just announced Colson has been optioned to AAA. So much for that. Haha. Good.
March 11, 20251 yr So Meidroth vs. Baldwin as the starting SS now? Even if Amaya makes the roster, I feel like it would be as a temporary backup IF.
March 11, 20251 yr So then, it's Amaya, Baldwin, Meidroth at SS, unless they're really going to plug Rojas in for a month.
March 11, 20251 yr Pretty thorough analysis of the OD roster by SoxMachine: Podcast: How is the 2025 White Sox 26-man roster shaking out
March 11, 20251 yr Also, the rotation is a lot more fun with Smith as the #5 starter vs. Wilson or Gilbert. I honestly thought they would keep in a relief role to start, but feels like he has a legimate shot to snag a rotation shot.
March 11, 20251 yr 5 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Pretty thorough analysis of the OD roster by SoxMachine: Podcast: How is the 2025 White Sox 26-man roster shaking out Their take on Colson likely being the OD SS hasn’t aged well 😁
March 11, 20251 yr 7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Also, the rotation is a lot more fun with Smith as the #5 starter vs. Wilson or Gilbert. I honestly thought they would keep in a relief role to start, but feels like he has a legimate shot to snag a rotation shot. Just give him the OD start. ala Crochet.. f*** it
March 11, 20251 yr 14 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The Robert return has already crashed to the point where it sounds like we aren't getting a front line player for him. Maybe a starter or two, but something big? Sure doesn't sound like it. That leaves us our own Dev, which takes a lot of time, if ever... Our drafting, which takes time, and Free agency, which isn't happening while Jerry is the controlling partner and this team sucks. Again, I dont' see it. We'll see about the Robert return. I'll do something besides, "the team will always suck with JR" pessimism. The Sox historically have a payroll in the upper half of the league. They are well below that now. With a pretty good cost controlled pitching staff. They will have money to get competent postion players. The catching position looks in good shape which is important for the pitching staff.
March 11, 20251 yr 8 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Just give him the OD start. ala Crochet.. f*** it I just hope that whenever Thorpe is ready to go, Davis, Cannon, Burke, & Smith make it very hard for Getz not to push Perez to the bullpen.
March 11, 20251 yr 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I just hope that whenever Thorpe is ready to go, Davis, Cannon, Burke, & Smith make it very hard for Getz not to push Perez to the bullpen. I think they would want the LHP there provided the performance is fairly equal.
March 11, 20251 yr 5 minutes ago, ptatc said: I think they would want the LHP there provided the performance is fairly equal. I hope the Sox would prioritize developing their controllable young talent over balancing handedness if the performance is even remotely equal. Which of those five RHPs would you demote if they all look ready?
March 11, 20251 yr 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I hope the Sox would prioritize developing their controllable young talent over balancing handedness if the performance is even remotely equal. Which of those five RHPs would you demote if they all look ready? That's just it. If all the performances are fairly equal. Odds are one will struggle and need to be sent down. Don't forget to add Thorpe as he will need to be brought up as well. That 7 starters. We know they will go through that many during the first few months let alone the whole season. If a couple are in the pen or in the minors it's not the end of the world. They will come up.
March 11, 20251 yr Meidroth hasn’t been impactful so far when making contact, but he is rocking a 23.8% BB rate and a .333 OBP despite a .154 BABIP. Feels like he’s got to be the hands-down favorite at the moment for the Opening Day SS job. I’d still love to see Baldwin get more time there, but so far that hasn’t been the case.
March 11, 20251 yr 11 minutes ago, ptatc said: We'll see about the Robert return. I'll do something besides, "the team will always suck with JR" pessimism. The Sox historically have a payroll in the upper half of the league. They are well below that now. With a pretty good cost controlled pitching staff. They will have money to get competent postion players. The catching position looks in good shape which is important for the pitching staff. This is more than your simple hand wave. We can see what we have in the system and who is left to trade. We also have decades of free agent history here to base future expectations off of. We also know we trail all but one ALCentral team in MiLB systems in the vast majority of the system rankings, which is also important to note here, as it means we aren't just chasing 40-50 games now, we are also behind in future expectations. If anything the idea that everything will just work out is the one that seems suspect.
March 11, 20251 yr 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Meidroth hasn’t been impactful so far when making contact, but he is rocking a 23.8% BB rate and a .333 OBP despite a .154 BABIP. Feels like he’s got to be the hands-down favorite at the moment for the Opening Day SS job. I’d still love to see Baldwin get more time there, but so far that hasn’t been the case. That would be interesting. That's a good deal of pressure on a rookie. We've seen what playing rookies away from their natural positions has done in the past. Hopefully, it won't be for too long.
March 11, 20251 yr 30 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said: I don’t think he will ever be Bobby Witt Jr. either. But like you said, he doesn’t have to be Bobby Witt Jr. to be a productive player and integral piece on this team. I’m hoping that they rely less on these prospects with the revamped farm system and Ishbia potentially coming in. That was the problem with the last rebuild. They were banking on Moncada, Eloy, etc to all be stars for it to work. When that didn’t happen, they were screwed. And hey, I'm sure I'm just managing my own emotional mitigation if the negative reports all turn out to be true. I think Monty's production will be closer to Benintendi's first 6+ years than Mookie Betts'.
March 11, 20251 yr 5 minutes ago, ptatc said: That's just it. If all the performances are fairly equal. Odds are one will struggle and need to be sent down. Don't forget to add Thorpe as he will need to be brought up as well. That 7 starters. We know they will go through that many during the first few months let alone the whole season. If a couple are in the pen or in the minors it's not the end of the world. They will come up. I guess what I’m saying is the best case outcome for us is a rotation of Martin, Cannon, Burke, Smith, & Thorpe with Perez, Wilson, & Gilbert in the bullpen. It’s very possible or even likely one of those first five guys struggles, but we won’t know until they’re given a chance. I’d much rather see the low ceiling vets get forced to the bullpen and make starts when needed vs. vice versa.
March 11, 20251 yr 7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: This is more than your simple hand wave. We can see what we have in the system and who is left to trade. We also have decades of free agent history here to base future expectations off of. We also know we trail all but one ALCentral team in MiLB systems in the vast majority of the system rankings, which is also important to note here, as it means we aren't just chasing 40-50 games now, we are also behind in future expectations. If anything the idea that everything will just work out is the one that seems suspect. I still disagree. You can say history if FA signings but didn't they set the record for a contract with Albert Belle? Besides I'm not talking about a massive signing filling in with good players when they have budget space and a good pitching staff. I think the budget space is the key.
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