15 minutes ago, ron883 said:

So even if Ishbia has more shares than Reinsdorf, Reinsdorf is still calling the shots? Is that what Im hearing? Does Ishbia need 50%+ to get full control?

The shares that Ishbia is buying now already gave up voting rights to JR.  He has full control.  For that to change, JR has to give up control himself, or die.

13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

The shares that Ishbia is buying now already gave up voting rights to JR.  He has full control.  For that to change, JR has to give up control himself, or die.

To be clear. I think if he dies, the control goes to his family if they were to keep their shares.  He’s basically got to sell control to be relieved of it.

the white sox being moved to winnetka will coincide with getting starbucks latte logo as a uniform patch

6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

To be clear. I think if he dies, the control goes to his family if they were to keep their shares.  He’s basically got to sell control to be relieved of it.

This would be my expectation, but no one has ever actually said it outloud as a fact.

i spoke to someone placed highly in the offices at 35th & Shields. long ago Jon Rauch put him up there on a high shelf and ever since no one has ever been able to reach high enough to bring him back down.

48 minutes ago, Fielder Jones said:

i spoke to someone placed highly in the offices at 35th & Shields. long ago Jon Rauch put him up there on a high shelf and ever since no one has ever been able to reach high enough to bring him back down.

Calls to mind the dispute KW had with Rauch after he left a poor start early...or Stone?

11 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Calls to mind the dispute KW had with Rauch after he left a poor start early...or Stone?

It was Kenny who immediately cut Rauch after finding out about it. 

1 hour ago, ron883 said:

So even if Ishbia has more shares than Reinsdorf, Reinsdorf is still calling the shots? Is that what Im hearing? Does Ishbia need 50%+ to get full control?

He can own 99.9% but can’t get control unless Reinsdorf gives it to him. JR has been the king since 1981. I’m sure he has run things by his partners, but ultimately all decisions have been his.

1 hour ago, Dick Allen said:

He can own 99.9% but can’t get control unless Reinsdorf gives it to him. JR has been the king since 1981. I’m sure he has run things by his partners, but ultimately all decisions have been his.

Correct. That is the way his contract is written, he has the day to day authority to run the franchise as he sees fit without interference. 

1 hour ago, Dick Allen said:

He can own 99.9% but can’t get control unless Reinsdorf gives it to him. JR has been the king since 1981. I’m sure he has run things by his partners, but ultimately all decisions have been his.

I do not doubt that control is already worked out.  No way Jerry is in charge once the smoke clears.  JR needs to work out his capital gains issue...not hang on to do nothing.  

1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:

It was Kenny who immediately cut Rauch after finding out about it. 

If by “cut” you mean sent to the minors after the game, yes, that’s what happened.  He wasn’t “cut” as in DFA.

After he left the clubhouse before the end of a 5-1 loss to Anaheim on May 29, 2004, he was called up again in June.  He was traded a month later on July 18, 2004 with Gary Majewski to the Expos for Crazy Carl Everett.

https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2004/06/21/white-sox-pitcher-back-in-clubhouse/

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Jon Rauch appreciates getting a second chance with the White Sox.

The right-hander was recalled from Triple-A Charlotte on Sunday. In his previous stint with Chicago, Rauch drew criticism from general manager Kenny Williams and several teammates after he left the clubhouse before the end of a 5-1 loss to Anaheim on May 29.

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I can't for Ishbia's first move after taking control will be to sign Paul Skenes to a 10 year/$600M contract. 😍😍

11 hours ago, Fielder Jones said:

i spoke to someone placed highly in the offices at 35th & Shields. long ago Jon Rauch put him up there on a high shelf and ever since no one has ever been able to reach high enough to bring him back down.

I was talking to some dude perched way up in the suites at 31st & Wentworth. Ages ago, Ozzie Guillen plopped him up there on the highest ledge, and no one’s ever managed to stretch far enough to pull him back down.

Ishbia is not a wait around and wait kind of guy. He has always wanted to own a baseball team. He had every intent on purchasing the Twins but JR approached him with a deal to purchase the Sox and he changed course and took it. He lives and works in Chicago. I predict he will be the new White Sox owner much sooner than later.

4 hours ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said:

I can't for Ishbia's first move after taking control will be to sign Paul Skenes to a 10 year/$600M contract. 😍😍

This would be so far away

For what it's worth, if both Ishbia brothers buy in (which I think is how I think the operate the Suns — Matt is in charge, Justin invests), the Sox would have the second wealthiest ownership in the league.

5 hours ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said:

I can't for Ishbia's first move after taking control will be to sign Paul Skenes to a 10 year/$600M contract. 😍😍

Let him finally resolve the RF solution by signing Tucker first 😉

Thinking about it, it's amazing the last rebuild didn't even yield a RF.

5 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Thinking about it, it's amazing the last rebuild didn't even yield a RF.

The last rebuild didn’t even yield a DH 💀

6 minutes ago, Snopek said:

The last rebuild didn’t even yield a DH 💀

LOL

29 minutes ago, Quin said:

For what it's worth, if both Ishbia brothers buy in (which I think is how I think the operate the Suns — Matt is in charge, Justin invests), the Sox would have the second wealthiest ownership in the league.

I think Justin alone makes us the 2nd wealthiest, but won’t hurt to have both.

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https://www.zonalsports.com/ranking/richest-mlb-team-owners&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiJjfbc_d6LAxW0JNAFHYIXNYQQFnoECAoQAw&usg=AOvVaw0nLFo3wQ19tsZSn_tbimGU

How much does Matt have?

Justin is around $5 billion plus.

Matt?

That would put them around the Rogers/Blue Jays for second place among/st owners....with Cohen first.

11 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I think Justin alone makes us the wealthiest, but won’t hurt to have both.

Not over Cohen...

"With a net worth of $21.3 billion, Steve Cohen is the richest team owner in Major League Baseball,"

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26 minutes ago, Quin said:

For what it's worth, if both Ishbia brothers buy in (which I think is how I think the operate the Suns — Matt is in charge, Justin invests), the Sox would have the second wealthiest ownership in the league.

Baseball Gods finally smiling down on us

7 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Not over Cohen...

"With a net worth of $21.3 billion, Steve Cohen is the richest team owner in Major League Baseball,"

Sorry, meant to put “2nd” there…both brothers combined and well behind Cohen

22 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Not over Cohen...

"With a net worth of $21.3 billion, Steve Cohen is the richest team owner in Major League Baseball,"

Cohen is also very unique because most of that is straight cash. Horrible human being though.

Justin is similar in that it's a lot of cash on hand as opposed to business value.