Chimpton Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Those guys mostly fell off due to health…Robert’s elite tools are still very much present. They might be present but he isn't showing them consistently this season or last. Edited May 31 by Chimpton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 16 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Speaking of Anderson he was recently DFA'd by the Angels. And released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, PaleAleSox said: Are they? Did his hip injuries hurt his swing possibly? The way he is running? I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 2 hours ago, PaleAleSox said: Are they? Did his hip injuries hurt his swing possibly? Not sure about that, but the elite power and speed is still there. His issues are theoretically fixable…obviously we will have to wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 59 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Not sure about that, but the elite power and speed is still there. His issues are theoretically fixable…obviously we will have to wait and see. At this point you’re on the same level as a flat earther…how much evidence do you need to see before you accept reality? It’s over for Robert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 6 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: I would like to apologize to @JUSTgottaBELIEVE. Robert is a fucking headcase and despite having all the tools and taking some steps in the right direction, he can’t seem to put it altogether. I remain adamant that as soon as we trade him, the other org will immediately figure out how to fix him and reap the rewards of a massive buy low. But alas, that won’t help us now in terms of trade value. It’s all good. I’ve had very little faith in Robert this season because I didn’t like what I was seeing. And it started last season. He’s definitely not the same hitter he was in 2023 regardless of what the advanced analytics may or may not say. It’s unfortunate but he’s going the way of Moncada - option declined and buyout after this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 The irony is that both Mike Tauchman and Michael Taylor have more trade value than Robert (admittedly, minimal value nonetheless). That’s something I didn’t expect to type 4 months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 I blame the underlying metrics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Autumn Dreamin Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Maybe he's intimidated by having too many actual outfielders on the roster now. Throw some first basemen and utility guys in the corners for a few games and see if it gets him going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 I often wonder if it would be different if Hinch was the manager. It just seems the TLR/Grifol era was toxic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 15 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: I often wonder if it would be different if Hinch was the manager. It just seems the TLR/Grifol era was toxic. The return of Tony was the beginning of the end 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 25 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: I often wonder if it would be different if Hinch was the manager. It just seems the TLR/Grifol era was toxic. Bringing in Tony completely killed the entire thing. Look how much fun they were having the year before. He sucked the life out of them by the ASB. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 Can't help but wonder what the White Sox are going to do with Robert Jr. He looks like he couldn't hit me.I know he can't be sent down to the minors without his permission. Maybe he might agree to that. All I know is he doesn't look like a MLB hitter anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 12 minutes ago, WBWSF said: Can't help but wonder what the White Sox are going to do with Robert Jr. He looks like he couldn't hit me.I know he can't be sent down to the minors without his permission. Maybe he might agree to that. All I know is he doesn't look like a MLB hitter anymore. I think as soon as he gets to a different organization be it by the trade deadline this year or next year after the Sox decline his option, he'll be better. Mentally he has got to be in a bad place after the injuries and the dysfunction in this organization. And he needs to go somewhere, where he will be held accountable for things like training and conditioning since part of his issue appears to be of his own making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 16 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: Bringing in Tony completely killed the entire thing. Look how much fun they were having the year before. He sucked the life out of them by the ASB. Grifol made it worse. Before managing a game he point out problems from his other 100 loss team from the dugout. He was a kiss ass and that's what appealed to Jerry. People forget Getz also push for him. Getz has the bad Royal envy and so far it is working. You don't get better getting people from losing organizations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 13 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: I think as soon as he gets to a different organization be it by the trade deadline this year or next year after the Sox decline his option, he'll be better. Mentally he has got to be in a bad place after the injuries and the dysfunction in this organization. And he needs to go somewhere, where he will be held accountable for things like training and conditioning since part of his issue appears to be of his own making. He really doesn't want to be traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 2 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: I think as soon as he gets to a different organization be it by the trade deadline this year or next year after the Sox decline his option, he'll be better. Mentally he has got to be in a bad place after the injuries and the dysfunction in this organization. And he needs to go somewhere, where he will be held accountable for things like training and conditioning since part of his issue appears to be of his own making. This has been said about every player that has left here. All of them remained bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 2 hours ago, kitekrazy said: I often wonder if it would be different if Hinch was the manager. It just seems the TLR/Grifol era was toxic. TLR won 93 and was around .500 in 2022 when he stepped away. Grifol earned his own era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 2 hours ago, PaleAleSox said: This has been said about every player that has left here. All of them remained bad. You may be correct, which says a lot about the organization in the first place doesn't it? They signed/drafted/developed all of these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 How about a stint down in Charlotte for Robert, maybe it will be a wake up call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 15 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: The return of Tony was the beginning of the end Nah, it happened before that, when they failed to/didn’t intend to sign Harper. LaRussa was just the undertaker putting the nails in the coffin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 7 minutes ago, FloydBannister1983 said: Nah, it happened before that, when they failed to/didn’t intend to sign Harper. LaRussa was just the undertaker putting the nails in the coffin. We were on a pretty good upswing before he got here. Once he got here it was good for the first half of the first season, but even then it was fraying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 16 hours ago, PaleAleSox said: Bringing in Tony completely killed the entire thing. Look how much fun they were having the year before. He sucked the life out of them by the ASB. No doubt, it was JR’s worst move in a list of many many during his pathetic ownership. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 19 hours ago, PaleAleSox said: Bringing in Tony completely killed the entire thing. Look how much fun they were having the year before. He sucked the life out of them by the ASB. The problem is he is still there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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