July 15, 2025Jul 15 Pay whatever is left of his salary this year if you can get something meaningful back.
July 15, 2025Jul 15 Honestly wonder if what Vaughn is doing in Milwaukee helps the case of Robert. Maybe getting out of Chicago cures all?
July 15, 2025Jul 15 9 minutes ago, Tony said: Honestly wonder if what Vaughn is doing in Milwaukee helps the case of Robert. Maybe getting out of Chicago cures all? Of course it does
July 15, 2025Jul 15 22 minutes ago, Tony said: Honestly wonder if what Vaughn is doing in Milwaukee helps the case of Robert. Maybe getting out of Chicago cures all? Poor Getz has to sell his own ineptitude to get Robert sold high.
July 15, 2025Jul 15 So does anyone know why Ryan Fuller couldn’t fix Vaughn, Robert, Benintendi, Vargas, et al.? Asking for a friend.
July 15, 2025Jul 15 On 5/21/2025 at 8:32 PM, Bob Sacamano said: I can’t wait to move on from this guy. One of the last remnants from the last rebuild. How many of the most recent division-winning team remain. It's sad that they dwindled down so soon. The last 83er was Fisk, who stayed till 93. The last 93er was Hurt, who stayed till 2005. The last 2000 and 2005 player was Paulie, right. I think the last 2008 member was alexei ramirez.
July 15, 2025Jul 15 18 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: So does anyone know why Ryan Fuller couldn’t fix Vaughn, Robert, Benintendi, Vargas, et al.? Asking for a friend. For a guy that was preaching about small sample size for Vargas, are you already saying Vaughn is fixed?
July 15, 2025Jul 15 12 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: For a guy that was preaching about small sample size for Vargas, are you already saying Vaughn is fixed? No, not at all. I am talking about when Vaughn was with the Sox, just like the other three guys.
July 15, 2025Jul 15 17 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: For a guy that was preaching about small sample size for Vargas, are you already saying Vaughn is fixed? He’s saying why couldn’t he fix Vaughn. Has nothing to do with whatever he’s doing in Milwaukee. Edited July 15, 2025Jul 15 by Bob Sacamano
July 15, 2025Jul 15 1 hour ago, Tony said: Honestly wonder if what Vaughn is doing in Milwaukee helps the case of Robert. Maybe getting out of Chicago cures all? "Look, Luis is extremely depressed being here. We think he'll do better in a more nurturing environment. Thus, I need your most extroverted prospect."
July 15, 2025Jul 15 14 minutes ago, Quin said: "Look, Luis is extremely depressed being here. We think he'll do better in a more nurturing environment. Thus, I need your most extroverted prospect." Being traded to the white sox is known to rapidly deplete one’s serotonin.
July 15, 2025Jul 15 34 minutes ago, Quin said: "Look, Luis is extremely depressed being here. We think he'll do better in a more nurturing environment. Thus, I need your most extroverted prospect." Do you have guys we don't have to work on? We aren't very good there.
July 15, 2025Jul 15 Just imagine Getz - other gm - what’s wrong? Oh let me tell you what we do for these players…other gm shakes head, well, I guess we should up our offer - Sox having been telling him to choke up as part of their advanced analytics program….
July 15, 2025Jul 15 21 hours ago, Tnetennba said: Being traded to the white sox is known to rapidly deplete one’s serotonin. Signing as a non dumpster dive FA does that too but maybe that is on the Sox scouting
July 16, 2025Jul 16 22 hours ago, PaleAleSox said: For a guy that was preaching about small sample size for Vargas, are you already saying Vaughn is fixed? Right? It's 15 at bats. I wouldn't rule out AV being an average hitter again, but the guy isn't suddenly Hank Aaron because he switched jerseys. He was pretty brutal at AAA Nashville too.
July 16, 2025Jul 16 23 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: So does anyone know why Ryan Fuller couldn’t fix Vaughn, Robert, Benintendi, Vargas, et al.? Asking for a friend. He's been here 6 months, he doesn't have his own major league pitching coach, and I would assume he's focusing his work in the minors. I do suspect some of these vets (primarily Robert) are casualties of the new approach). There will be some free swingers who are good players and they'll have to figure out how to get the best out of them.
July 16, 2025Jul 16 45 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Right? It's 15 at bats. I wouldn't rule out AV being an average hitter again, but the guy isn't suddenly Hank Aaron because he switched jerseys. He was pretty brutal at AAA Nashville too. The point wasn’t that he was “fixed” in Milwaukee FWIW. It was that Fuller couldn’t fix him. This was gone over yesterday or earlier or whenever. Time has blended together since having a kid a year ago. Edited July 16, 2025Jul 16 by Bob Sacamano
July 16, 2025Jul 16 23 hours ago, Sox guy said: How many of the most recent division-winning team remain. It's sad that they dwindled down so soon. The last 83er was Fisk, who stayed till 93. The last 93er was Hurt, who stayed till 2005. The last 2000 and 2005 player was Paulie, right. I think the last 2008 member was alexei ramirez. AJ hung in there a long time, too.
July 16, 2025Jul 16 On 7/14/2025 at 8:21 PM, WhiteSox2023 said: So does anyone know why Ryan Fuller couldn’t fix Vaughn, Robert, Benintendi, Vargas, et al.? Asking for a friend. I'm sure a lot of it is simply the losing. That makes it hard to stay sharp. I had a really good paying job that I quit once because I hated it there. Losing 80% of the time probably makes many guys hate coming to the park every day. Say what you want about personal pride and professionalism. Losing affects evey one differently.
July 16, 2025Jul 16 15 hours ago, zisk said: I'm sure a lot of it is simply the losing. That makes it hard to stay sharp. I had a really good paying job that I quit once because I hated it there. Losing 80% of the time probably makes many guys hate coming to the park every day. Say what you want about personal pride and professionalism. Losing affects evey one differently. I've had a lot of former Sox players tell me how hard it is to be positive and even 'enjoy' coming to the park when you just know you are probably going to lose. Edited July 16, 2025Jul 16 by Lip Man 1
July 16, 2025Jul 16 I bet the Royals would trade the Sox Massey and two of their better pitching prospects for Robert. But we don't trade with teams in our division. Maybe that's a Jerry thing if Jerry still cares about the team at all. Helping one's divisional rival or the Cubs used to be a no-no, prolly still is. I betcha we keep Robert cause nobody is gonna offer enough.
July 16, 2025Jul 16 7 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: I've hard a lot of former Sox players tell me how hard it is to be positive and even 'enjoy' coming to the park when you just know you are probably going to lose. That sort of negativity is hard to break and would certainly need an inspiring manager, something the White Sox haven't had recently.
July 16, 2025Jul 16 7 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: I've hard a lot of former Sox players tell me how hard it is to be positive and even 'enjoy' coming to the park when you just know you are probably going to lose. Can you name names. That's heartbreaking to hear. I always see Comiskey as a happy place, win or lose. It's surprising to hear that players can get so bummed despite being part of such a legacy organisation.
July 16, 2025Jul 16 13 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: Right? It's 15 at bats. I wouldn't rule out AV being an average hitter again, but the guy isn't suddenly Hank Aaron because he switched jerseys. He was pretty brutal at AAA Nashville too. That wasn’t my point at all and I already responded to @PaleAleSox who had the same comment prior to yours. @Bob Sacamano gets it… Edited July 16, 2025Jul 16 by WhiteSox2023
July 16, 2025Jul 16 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: That wasn’t my point at all and I already responded to @PaleAleSox who had the same comment prior to yours. @Bob Sacamano gets it… Fun fact Andrew Vaughn has more bWAR in 16 PA (0.5) for the Brewers than he did in his entire White Sox career (-0.5)
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