May 23, 2025May 23 Benintendi and tauchman do not help the team now; they do not help the future. Rojas, Slater, etc. Why are we wasting time with these stiffs? Elko has 3 homers in less than 2 weeks; 3 in 32 PAs. 30/320, 60/640. Just saying. Send him away? What are we doing here? Edited May 23, 2025May 23 by GreenSox
May 23, 2025May 23 24 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Benintendi and tauchman do not help the team now; they do not help the future. Rojas, Slater, etc. Why are we wasting time with these stiffs? Elko has 3 homers in less than 2 weeks; 3 in 32 PAs. 30/320, 60/640. Just saying. Send him away? What are we doing here? https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/article/mlb-free-agency-rankings-2025-26-is-red-soxs-alex-bregman-destined-for-big-payday-if-career-year-continues-235504997.html The options for FA hitters/outfielders and DH types are all pretty MEH. OF=Bellinger, Mullins, Trent Grisham, Austin Hays, Mike Yastrzemski, Laureano and Harrison Bader...that's IT. 1B/DH The aging Paul Goldschmidt, really. Pete Alonso is obviously out of the price range. Same with Schwarber, Marcel Ozuna and Josh Naylor. Relief pitchers...Helsley, Weaver, Devin Williams, R. Iglesias, Yates, Romano, Finnegan, K.Jansen 12. Munetaka Murakami, Yakult Swallows 3B, age 26 (9) The highly-touted Japanese slugger has been sidelined with a vague upper body injury since our most recent free-agent update and sinks on the list as a result. In the 2023 WBC, a 23-year-old Murakami hit fifth for champion Japan, slotted right behind Shohei Ohtani and Masataka Yoshida. He and the Swallows have had this upcoming winter circled for some time as the moment Murakami would make the MLB leap. But if his jump-year continues to be so thoroughly derailed by injuries, there’s a chance the NPB’s all-time single season domestic home run leader stays in Japan for one more year. Edited May 23, 2025May 23 by caulfield12
May 23, 2025May 23 Author Teel is raking in Charlotte as well. Why are we still playing these stiffs like Vaughn, Tauchman, Slater, Rojas. I would rather see Julks or Fletcher. Elko is better defensively and hits for more power than Vaughn and is not afraid to walk. Why not send Vaughn down, he sucks.
May 23, 2025May 23 Kind of expected this but he'll be back. Gotta get whatever you can out of Vaughn and his $6.5M price tag! Edited May 23, 2025May 23 by Bob Sacamano
May 23, 2025May 23 8 hours ago, fathom said: Bump….this organization is a joke Of course. They started playing him every day.
May 23, 2025May 23 37 minutes ago, HoosierSox said: Teel is raking in Charlotte as well. Why are we still playing these stiffs like Vaughn, Tauchman, Slater, Rojas. I would rather see Julks or Fletcher. Elko is better defensively and hits for more power than Vaughn and is not afraid to walk. Why not send Vaughn down, he sucks. HeGetzUs
May 23, 2025May 23 37 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Kind of expected this but he'll be back. Gotta get whatever you can out of Vaughn and his $6.5M price tag! I kind of doubt he will be back to be honest. He was the best hitter in minor league baseball. That still didn't earn him a spot here. I doubt he can keep that level up. They've fucked with him enough already by not giving him consistent at bats.
May 23, 2025May 23 10 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: I kind of doubt he will be back to be honest. He was the best hitter in minor league baseball. That still didn't earn him a spot here. I doubt he can keep that level up. They've fucked with him enough already by not giving him consistent at bats. The active roster is becoming a bit cluttered though with all the OFs coming back and Korey Lee.
May 23, 2025May 23 1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said: Kind of expected this but he'll be back. Gotta get whatever you can out of Vaughn and his $6.5M price tag! The easiest non-tender in the history of White Sox baseball will haunt us all season.
May 23, 2025May 23 1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said: The active roster is becoming a bit cluttered though with all the OFs coming back and Korey Lee. Crap. It is cluttered with crap.
May 23, 2025May 23 Elko being sent down is crazy but I'm not surprised. These goofs who run this show don't think much of Elko. Recently Elko hit a home run in a game and was later removed for a pinch hitter. Obviously he is not in their future plans. Steve Stone who has become a notorious houseman has pointed out a few times that Elko has the one thing in MLB that teams are looking for, POWER. I'm curious to see what Stone says about Elko being demoted. I would guess he won't say anything. I hope the White Sox have the decency to release Elko. He would be picked up by some team and be a starter. If they released Vaughn I don't think any body would pick him up and start him in the MLB. He would probably be picked up by somebody and be in the Minors. Edited May 23, 2025May 23 by WBWSF
May 23, 2025May 23 43 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Crap. It is cluttered with crap. They gotta unclog the toilet.
May 23, 2025May 23 14 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: They gotta unclog the toilet. Hopefully Will isn't flushing nearly as much as Pedro did.
May 23, 2025May 23 8 minutes ago, JoshPR said: Who did they bring up for Elko? It's going to be Tauchman and Benintendi it seems. So someone else is going as well.
May 23, 2025May 23 9 hours ago, GreenSox said: Benintendi and tauchman do not help the team now; they do not help the future. Rojas, Slater, etc. Why are we wasting time with these stiffs? Elko has 3 homers in less than 2 weeks; 3 in 32 PAs. 30/320, 60/640. Just saying. Send him away? What are we doing here? I would disagree with this if we are talking just right now.
May 23, 2025May 23 11 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: It's going to be Tauchman and Benintendi it seems. So someone else is going as well. Korey Lee will be up any day as well. His rehab clock ends on Tuesday and AAA doesn't play on Mondays. My guess is Elko down, Palacios DFA today. What they decide to do with the catchers will be more interesting.
May 23, 2025May 23 13 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: It's going to be Tauchman and Benintendi it seems. So someone else is going as well. Palacios or Taylor I would think
May 23, 2025May 23 12 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: I would disagree with this if we are talking just right now. Right? Tauchman and Beni are an enormous upgrade on what we've been playing in the OF. Are they part of the future? Of course not. But neither is Josh Palacios or Corey Julks.
May 23, 2025May 23 20 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Korey Lee will be up any day as well. His rehab clock ends on Tuesday and AAA doesn't play on Mondays. My guess is Elko down, Palacios DFA today. What they decide to do with the catchers will be more interesting. Lee does have an option if they need to use it.
May 23, 2025May 23 i know it will be unacceptable to the masses here but: what matters more is maybe getting Vaughn hot enough to trade him for some teams #30 prospect. he would have to get really hot. but there is still something to gain there (he obviously will not be here in 2026, but a trading team would get control for 2026, so they could make the decision) Elko development is less important than that. Because we are going to be bad for awhile so Elko can feel free to develop after the trade deadline, and that lost time is not going to really matter much in the grand scheme. He'll either get it or he wont but experience from now-to-deadline wont make or break that. He also may honestly not be more than like a second division regular 1B, even though right now our eyes are very wide open over him
May 23, 2025May 23 11 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: I mean, he hasn't been good. I would have optioned AV, but don't feel this is worth too much hand wringing. You def can't carry 3 catchers and 2 1B so if you're not optioning Elko, it was going to be Quero when Lees rehab is up in a few days anyway. The problem is this decision simply came down to cost. When they got in a room and discussed roster moves, Andrew Vaughn's salary played a major role in the discussion. And we're not talking about a player making $25 million a year. Tim Elko has done everything he can do in AAA. He's 26, this team is one of the worst in the league, and the player "blocking" Elko has the worst WAR in the major leagues right now. Literally out of 1,112 players, Andrew Vaughn is No. 1,112 in MLB in 2025. He's had over 2,400 PA's with the White Sox in his career, and has totaled -1.7 WAR during that time. Tim Elko will be a distant memory for MLB in 4-5 years, there is a more than good chance he's a AAAA player, will thrive in Japan. But the Sox have NO REASON not to find out right now...but simply don't want to swallow the $5.8 million price tag of Vaughn, because they don't care about the product they put on the field.
May 23, 2025May 23 I'm guessing it's Elko down, Palacios DFA, Tauchman and Benintendi back. Lee optioned to AAA
May 23, 2025May 23 12 minutes ago, Princess Dye said: i know it will be unacceptable to the masses here but: what matters more is maybe getting Vaughn hot enough to trade him for some teams #30 prospect. he would have to get really hot. but there is still something to gain there (he obviously will not be here in 2026, but a trading team would get control for 2026, so they could make the decision) Elko development is less important than that. Because we are going to be bad for awhile so Elko can feel free to develop after the trade deadline, and that lost time is not going to really matter much in the grand scheme. He'll either get it or he wont but experience from now-to-deadline wont make or break that. He also may honestly not be more than like a second division regular 1B, even though right now our eyes are very wide open over him You know it will be "unacceptable to the masses" because it's bat s%*# crazy and illogical. Let me say it for the folks in the back. ANDREW VAUGHN HAS BEEN THE WORST PLAYER IN BASEBALL THIS YEAR. Tim Elko would have more value on the trade market than Andrew Vaughn, for a number of reasons. Your premise makes no sense
May 23, 2025May 23 9 minutes ago, Tony said: The problem is this decision simply came down to cost. When they got in a room and discussed roster moves, Andrew Vaughn's salary played a major role in the discussion. And we're not talking about a player making $25 million a year. Tim Elko has done everything he can do in AAA. He's 26, this team is one of the worst in the league, and the player "blocking" Elko has the worst WAR in the major leagues right now. Literally out of 1,112 players, Andrew Vaughn is No. 1,112 in MLB in 2025. He's had over 2,400 PA's with the White Sox in his career, and has totaled -1.7 WAR during that time. Tim Elko will be a distant memory for MLB in 4-5 years, there is a more than good chance he's a AAAA player, will thrive in Japan. But the Sox have NO REASON not to find out right now...but simply don't want to swallow the $5.8 million price tag of Vaughn, because they don't care about the product they put on the field. Which makes his resigning all of the more stupid. He was a waste when they tendered him an offer. No hindsight needed.
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