Lip Man 1 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Postgame autopsy. Lists basically every single mistake and bone headed play the Bears made: https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2025/09/08/bears-vikings-monday-night-football-score-halftime-injury-caleb-williams-ben-johnson-jaylon-nfl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 I will say as ticked as I am, this season was always tough and about building momentum - so now have to see how they respond. Not winning this is tough though cause they open up with a pretty brutal schedule if I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 2 minutes ago, joejoesox said: he looked like a rookie out there. made some great plays with his feet but outside of a couple nice passing plays he looked totally overmatched for most of the Caleb ain't a winner. Bears drafted a prima Donna. The signs were all there but Poles ignored it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 (edited) https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2025/09/08/bears-coach-ben-johnson-cant-keep-qb-caleb-williams-on-track-loses-27-24-to-vikings-in-debut It ended with fans at Soldier Field booing as time ran out on the Bears’ last-ditch scramble to get downfield with laterals. Edited September 9 by Lip Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 2 minutes ago, LittleHurtCG said: Caleb ain't a winner. Bears drafted a prima Donna. The signs were all there but Poles ignored it. Big problem is the QB draft class might stink. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 2 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: I will say as ticked as I am, this season was always tough and about building momentum - so now have to see how they respond. Not winning this is tough though cause they open up with a pretty brutal schedule if I remember. First eight games: Minnesota, Detroit, Dallas, Las Vegas, Washington, New Orleans, Baltimore, Cincinnati. Looks like at best a 2-6 start to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 That missed FG changed the whole momentum of the game. With that being said, Caleb did miss alot of throws. He's got to be better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 (edited) Quote That Williams’ loss came to the Vikings is oddly poetic in itself. The Bears quarterback wanted to be drafted by the Bears’ division rival last year. He and his father even workshopped ways to force his way to Minnesota and away from Halas Hall before deciding he’d play for the Bears. McCarthy, meanwhile, grew up a Bears fan. He attended his first game at Soldier Field at age 4, watching the Vikings beat his hometown team on a field goal at the buzzer. Monday night’s game wasn’t that close. holy s%*# lmao Edited September 9 by joejoesox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 1 minute ago, joejoesox said: This was pretty hilarious. Great content added by the author of the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 2 minutes ago, SoxAce said: That missed FG changed the whole momentum of the game. With that being said, Caleb did miss alot of throws. He's got to be better. 86.7 PR 🤮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 45 minutes ago, kwolf said: I felt the team got really conservative with that lead. Heck he went for a 4th and short in the game. Didn't make it, but take a shot. Ben Johnson doing Wannstedt V 2.0. Wanny was an innovative play caller and became head coach and morphed into Woody Hayes. The defense is merely average and is without a couple good players. The oline struggled to open holes, Williams was OK, I didn't think he was bad, but he does miss reads and throws. But he also makes some really great plays. Gotta give him a long leash. But yea, old school Bears fans have to have QB PTSD as the Bears have not had a legit QB since Luckman, though for one year Jim Mac was great. After that Erik Kramer was probably our best. Haha. Officiating was brutal tonight. Though can't blame them for the 1st half false starts. Kicker missed a big kick. He has to make kicks. It's week 1, Vikings won 14 games last year, they are no pushover. Take a breath and get after it next week. Best QB since Luckman was Bobby Layne but not for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 (edited) 33 minutes ago, SoxAce said: That missed FG changed the whole momentum of the game. With that being said, Caleb did miss alot of throws. He's got to be better. The phantom holding on Wright where the Minnesota player just slipped started all of it. The Bears got a first down on that play and would have been on the 10 while actually running the ball well. So many things went wrong besides that though. We spent $50 million on 3 interior linemen and we still can't run the ball effectively. Jonah Jackson is trash. The Rams were going to cut him and Poles decided to actually trade draft compensation for him and then extended him. Caleb, while holding onto the ball too long, still had pressure up the middle too many times. Caleb still can't play within structure. I'm sure the all 22 will tell it better, but there were so many times where he'd just bail after standing 3 seconds in the pocket. You can't blame Waldron for drawing up s%*# plays, because Johnson got guys open. Caleb missed them too, way too many times. The inaccuracy issues weren't just on deep balls today, they happened on short and intermediate throws. Not being able to hit Rome on a WR screen. Missing a wide open DJ Moore on 4th and 2 up the middle. Missing a wide open Kmet up the middle. Not to mention the wide open TD to Moore that he missed right before the 2 minute warning. His accuracy was poor. Then the WTF plays from last year showed up. The 3rd and long throw where he threw it near Rome, but it was really to grass. His ability to improvise is nice and we saw that in the first drive, but he needs to do it cause he seemingly can't read the defense. It's really disappointing because the struggles last year really seemed like it was a coaching staff issue. But you bring in a guy who ran the best offense in the NFL last year in Detroit and the same problems persist. The most glaring one is the inaccuracy. I can understand not being acclimated to a new offense immediately, but when you're missing the open throws, that's not excusable. I'm willing to give him more time because like it or not, we're stuck with Caleb for another 2 years. You gotta make it work and it takes time, but a lot of the issues he has don't seem like they're easily fixable. Johnson was also disappointing. The decision to not kick on 4th and 2 in comfortable field goal range in the first half while up 4. It's the first half dude, you don't need to play for 7 all the time. Take the points. This offense isn't the 2024 Detroit Lions. The challenge on the non-fumble was just head scratching. Who's telling him to challenge that? You can see he was down in real-time. Who on the staff saw the replay and said, "yeah let's waste a time out on that"? In the end, that timeout ended up mattering. I don't think they would have won if they had it, but I sure would have liked to see 50 seconds on that last drive instead of 10. Lastly, you should know Cairo Santos has no leg strength. If he can't kick the ball out of the end zone, tell him to kick it out of bounds. 35 yard line vs. 40 yard line, who cares? It's 5 yards. I'd take the 40 seconds every time. Santos is a whole other issue, but it just goes to show that Poles doesn't have his priorities straight when our kicker can't make it from 50 on a consistent basis. Meanwhile Reichard kicked a 59 yarder like it was nothing. That matters in close games. Edited September 9 by chw42 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 I am disappoint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 It’s funny how it’s all over for everyone after game 1 but I’m gonna hold firm to “it’s gonna start pretty rough then it’s gonna fall in place” the O line was average at best and the right side was absolutely abysmal with penalties and push. Now, that defense is fucking awesome as well as their DC, they did great work to confuse everyone and that’s really disappointing given the pedigree Caleb was on fire, and then when he missed his first guy it’s like a balloon popped and his accuracy just died. I didn’t like that at all. The corners and safeties held their part of the bargain, the D Line was pretty suspect on the run. I saw that in preseason and it needs to change if they are going to get this team moving forward. I would say overall the defense definitely missed Gordon Johnson and Edward’s at the end the most. super disappointing end after a really fun first half 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 8 hours ago, LittleHurtCG said: Caleb ain't a winner. Bears drafted a prima Donna. The signs were all there but Poles ignored it. Care to elaborate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 53 minutes ago, Snopek said: Care to elaborate? He has been saying that since day 1. Is what it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Thought about this late last night Your first three picks this year were Loveland, Ozzie and Burden. Loveland was 2/12 last night I didn’t see Ozzie on the field Burden had 1 catch for -3 yards last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 9 Author Share Posted September 9 3 minutes ago, Tony said: Thought about this late last night Your first three picks this year were Loveland, Ozzie and Burden. Loveland was 2/12 last night I didn’t see Ozzie on the field Burden had 1 catch for -3 yards last night This kills me. You can’t have 4 top 60 picks and it make zero difference. Hopefully turner can make one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 9 Author Share Posted September 9 And yes. Long term I think they can, but come on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Santos is so annoying. I don’t blame him completely but the missed field goal and not kicking out of the back of the end zone was the difference at the end. The guy isn’t a new age kicker, he is a 40 to almost 50 yard FG kicker and the game has evolved to some of the mega leg kickers we see now. my last thought is the running back game yesterday was inexcusable. Swift isn’t an all purpose back, and Monangai was apparently there but invisible. Not a fan of letting DJ Moore get his ass kicked running through this offensive line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 22 minutes ago, bmags said: This kills me. You can’t have 4 top 60 picks and it make zero difference. Hopefully turner can make one Especially when you won 5 games last year. I get every pick isn't going to be a home run, but just looked it up: Burden played 22% of the snaps. Loveland 57%, but again was 2/12. Ozzy didn't even make the field. Why are you spending capital on an OL IN THE 2ND ROUND if he isn't going to play, even a snap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 3 minutes ago, Tony said: Especially when you won 5 games last year. I get every pick isn't going to be a home run, but just looked it up: Burden played 22% of the snaps. Loveland 57%, but again was 2/12. Ozzy didn't even make the field. Why are you spending capital on an OL IN THE 2ND ROUND if he isn't going to play, even a snap? They drafted a right tackle two years after passing on Jalen Carter for Wright. Poles is still the problem until we see some more consistent scouting hits. Turner was out with an injury I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 According to Chat GPT that was a good challenge. Ball does not count as part of the receiver's body, even after his knee touches the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 8 minutes ago, almagest said: According to Chat GPT that was a good challenge. Ball does not count as part of the receiver's body, even after his knee touches the ground. So did they rule the first contact was to the jersey vs the ball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 6 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: So did they rule the first contact was to the jersey vs the ball? Maybe? That wasn't the explanation I heard from the official though. Maybe he just did a terrible job of explaining it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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