Kyyle23 Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 13 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Maybe the craziest thing this season is the Bucs being #1 in some power ratings this week now minus McMillan Evans Godwin Egbuka and Bucky Irving. Also, guess CLE is where all QBs go to die. Finally, Glenn and McDaniel the next two to get fired. Raiders and Browns trending straight down after CLE blew their chances to beat MINN across the pond and then ineptly threw the ball 57 times against Pitt. Taylor in Cincy might not survive this year, either. Only safe for now jobs are Giants and Saints. Glenn is not getting fired in his first season with that s%*# roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 (edited) 3 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: Glenn is not getting fired in his first season with that s%*# roster If they don't win a single game anything is possible... But yeah if you believe in him, you give him a rookie QB and start over. The problem with that is there's not really a sure fire #1 guy to draft. Which outside you in the same situation the Titans are in...albeit NY has better weapons on offense in Wilson Hall Taylor. https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2026/story/_/id/46573669/2026-nfl-draft-rankings-mel-kiper-big-board-top-prospects-players-positions Dante Moore and Mendoza don't exactly seem like immediate "dominate the NFL" talents. Edited October 15 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 (edited) "He's very detailed, and we won't do anything unless it's damn near perfect," Gordon told Yahoo Sports in the locker room Monday night. Gordon added: "They would line up and redo a play until it's perfect, every single time. In the past, it was never like that. Sometimes it would just get looked over or whatever, but he will not let anything go without it looking correct. You can lose your 1-on-1, but you're not going to mess up the play. And I love that, you know? He just preaches perfection.” Why is the culture changing with Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears? 3 letters: 'Ben' "He is a mastermind," Williams said postgame Monday. "Sometimes he's on the headset, and he's like, 'This is a great play call right here. Here we go.' "He did that today, and he says that to me. ... Those little things actually provide confidence when you're about to go call the play, and you line up, and you're like, 'Uh oh,' and then the play actually works (see QB run at goal line Q2)." https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/article/why-is-the-culture-changing-with-caleb-williams-and-the-chicago-bears-3-letters-ben-184132676.html Edited October 15 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 16 hours ago, fathom said: Out of curiosity, what advanced analytics are there for NFL coaches? Didn't see this until now. What I meant by that is the advanced offense metrics that have shown his scheme is working, guys are getting open. Caleb has been up and down in actually putting it all together, but we knew this would take time. At the end of the day, Johnson is the head coach of the offense. Dennis Allen is the head coach of the defense. So I'm judging Ben on the offense, as well as his in-game decision making. Which by his own admission, hasn't been perfect, but no coach is. I look at the Monday night game. Think the Bears got the ball back with like 3:20 left to go in the game. They not only got themselves in good field position to kick the field goal, but managed the drive perfectly to be able to call their final timeout with 3 seconds on the clock, giving Washington no chance to come back on the field. That's not easy to do, and we've been witness to it way too many times ourselves with coaches that don't have a feel for the game, get overwhelmed by the moment, and the last few minutes end up being a clusterfuck. For the first time in a long time, I just don't have any reservations about the coaching staff of the Bears. Feels like they are in good hands, which isn't always easy to find. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 I just want to weigh in that the only thing that Aikman said that wasn't hating on Caleb/glazing Daniels was when he was talking about going for it on 4th and 2, said "well the analytics say" and then just...stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 3 hours ago, Tony said: Didn't see this until now. What I meant by that is the advanced offense metrics that have shown his scheme is working, guys are getting open. Caleb has been up and down in actually putting it all together, but we knew this would take time. At the end of the day, Johnson is the head coach of the offense. Dennis Allen is the head coach of the defense. So I'm judging Ben on the offense, as well as his in-game decision making. Which by his own admission, hasn't been perfect, but no coach is. I look at the Monday night game. Think the Bears got the ball back with like 3:20 left to go in the game. They not only got themselves in good field position to kick the field goal, but managed the drive perfectly to be able to call their final timeout with 3 seconds on the clock, giving Washington no chance to come back on the field. That's not easy to do, and we've been witness to it way too many times ourselves with coaches that don't have a feel for the game, get overwhelmed by the moment, and the last few minutes end up being a clusterfuck. For the first time in a long time, I just don't have any reservations about the coaching staff of the Bears. Feels like they are in good hands, which isn't always easy to find. This is very well said - the area I still have a lot of reservations with is Poles and the personnel department. Very little faith in them at this point in terms of how roster constructed, use of capital, free agency etc. I really hope we look back by end of the year and are seeing a much better product and looking at a number of his picks standing out and other moves starting to look better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 7 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: This is very well said - the area I still have a lot of reservations with is Poles and the personnel department. Very little faith in them at this point in terms of how roster constructed, use of capital, free agency etc. I really hope we look back by end of the year and are seeing a much better product and looking at a number of his picks standing out and other moves starting to look better. 1000% agree. By far my biggest gripe with the Bears right now is what the 2025 Draft looks like after Week 6. Tyler Warren leads all TE's in yards with (370) and AVERAGES more yards a game than Loveland has total on the year (54 total yards vs. 61.7 yards per game for Warren.) Doesn't mean Loveland won't be a good player, but spending that kind of capital on a player that isn't making an immediate impact is criminal. Through Week 6, Luther Burden is averaging 25% of snap counts. Ozzy Trapilo got 0 snaps in offensively vs. Washington. Shemar Turner is averaging 30% of defensive snaps over the last three weeks, after not playing early in the year. How do you spend that much draft currency filling up a roster that went 5-12 last season, and there seemingly is no room for these guys to play? It boggles the mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 (edited) 5 hours ago, Tony said: 1000% agree. By far my biggest gripe with the Bears right now is what the 2025 Draft looks like after Week 6. Tyler Warren leads all TE's in yards with (370) and AVERAGES more yards a game than Loveland has total on the year (54 total yards vs. 61.7 yards per game for Warren.) Doesn't mean Loveland won't be a good player, but spending that kind of capital on a player that isn't making an immediate impact is criminal. Through Week 6, Luther Burden is averaging 25% of snap counts. Ozzy Trapilo got 0 snaps in offensively vs. Washington. Shemar Turner is averaging 30% of defensive snaps over the last three weeks, after not playing early in the year. How do you spend that much draft currency filling up a roster that went 5-12 last season, and there seemingly is no room for these guys to play? It boggles the mind. Burden is trending upwards...36-39% usage, especially if Moore isn't 100%. Warren and Cam Skattebo in particular are two players that take a ton of hits due to their running styles. Will be interesting to see how that holds up over time. "A lot of that work is coming in like that design game. So part of me wonders like how much is he really adjusting to this playbook, to the NFL, how much do they trust him there because 50% of his targets right now are like those design screens, that sort of thing. He has that flea flicker as well. But even if you take out the flea flicker, his yards after the catch, are over 6. So really good there, still getting lots of design work, which means like they're trying to get him involved. The targets per route is really good. Just can he take that next jump as the next step? How much of a bump would you expect if he's at 36%, which was not because DJ Moore missed time." yahoo fantasy sports Edited October 16 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"A lot of that work is coming in like that design game. So part of me wonders like how much is he really adjusting to this playbook, to the NFL, how much do they trust him there because 50% of his targets right now are like those design screens, that sort of thing. He has that flea flicker as well. But even if you take out the flea flicker, his yards after the catch, are over 6. So really good there, still getting lots of design work, which means like they're trying to get him involved. The targets per route is really good. Just can he take that next jump as the next step? How much of a bump would you expect if he's at 36%, which was not because DJ Moore missed time." yahoo fantasy sports
caulfield12 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/nfl-world-reacts-troy-aikmans-130519517.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 11 hours ago, caulfield12 said: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/nfl-world-reacts-troy-aikmans-130519517.html JFC this is such a dumb non story. Why do people so badly need Aikman to like Caleb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 16 Author Share Posted October 16 I am optimistic on Turner after seeing him move to edge Monday, and am still a believer in Burden. Sunday will be interesting...will the saints pull the bears into the drudge or can the bears put their foot on their neck? I feel like Caleb has been a much better Home qb, and our run game looked so much better with Benedet/Wright. Sure would like Grady Jarrett to play. great signing 👎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 4 hours ago, Snopek said: JFC this is such a dumb non story. Why do people so badly need Aikman to like Caleb? He doesn't need to like him, but there was an audible difference in treatment betweenthe QBs. You can get away with that as a local guy, but not a national one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 42 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: He doesn't need to like him, but there was an audible difference in treatment betweenthe QBs. You can get away with that as a local guy, but not a national one. That sounds like a Troy Aikman problem and not a Caleb Williams problem or a Bears fan problem 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Does Aikman not like Caleb because he transferred from Oklahoma? Ironically so did Troy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 21 minutes ago, Snopek said: That sounds like a Troy Aikman problem and not a Caleb Williams problem or a Bears fan problem 🤷♂️ It is, but in a national game, Bears fans had to listen to it, so it became their problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: It is, but in a national game, Bears fans had to listen to it, so it became their problem. I get that to an extent, but I still struggle to consider it a problem. It really had no effect on my enjoyment of the game. I just feel like a lot of Bears fans are coming off as really thin skinned and whiny this week and it’s taking away from the win a bit, which is a thing that actually matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 55 minutes ago, Snopek said: I get that to an extent, but I still struggle to consider it a problem. It really had no effect on my enjoyment of the game. I just feel like a lot of Bears fans are coming off as really thin skinned and whiny this week and it’s taking away from the win a bit, which is a thing that actually matters. I mean you are the one saying "problem". I'd call it unprofessional, personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 I find it weird that fans would be so upset about Aikman disliking and nitpicking Williams, as that is what many fans have done and are still doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: I mean you are the one saying "problem". I'd call it unprofessional, personally. Sure, which is why I originally said it’s an Aikman problem and not a Caleb or Bears fan problem. But the fact that it’s turned into as much of a story as it has tells me that many do have a problem with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 52 minutes ago, Milkman delivers said: I find it weird that fans would be so upset about Aikman disliking and nitpicking Williams, as that is what many fans have done and are still doing. My theory is this Aikman story has been driven so hard by a Chicago media/fanbase still raw from the Cubs NLDS loss. They were already complaining about the Brewers showing the L flag two days prior to Bears game. So when they watched MNF and Aikman was giving his opinion of CW it was just too soon. I’m speaking very generally here, but Sox fans should be very familiar with the “national disrespect” angle. We’ve been dealing with it for decades, even during the WS run. I’m not even arguing the merits of it, because now….. there’s no argument for the White Sox deserving 30 seconds of airtime. But for a Sox fan and a Bears fan to be upset? Were used to it, boys. Even winning a SB won’t change anything. If Aikman hates CW, he’ll still hate him afterward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 I’m not dwelling on it, but it was strange during the game hearing him critique everything Williams was doing and not offering that same critique about Jayden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 I want to see Caleb and Bears just earn it by continuing to improve and getting themselves to the point that they have earned the respect - period. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 Old man Flacco FTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 How about Braxton Jones for Kaleb Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 7 hours ago, Flash Tizzle said: My theory is this Aikman story has been driven so hard by a Chicago media/fanbase still raw from the Cubs NLDS loss. They were already complaining about the Brewers showing the L flag two days prior to Bears game. So when they watched MNF and Aikman was giving his opinion of CW it was just too soon. I’m speaking very generally here, but Sox fans should be very familiar with the “national disrespect” angle. We’ve been dealing with it for decades, even during the WS run. I’m not even arguing the merits of it, because now….. there’s no argument for the White Sox deserving 30 seconds of airtime. But for a Sox fan and a Bears fan to be upset? Were used to it, boys. Even winning a SB won’t change anything. If Aikman hates CW, he’ll still hate him afterward. It could be as simple as USC vs. UCLA. Or dislike for Lincoln Riley? Good thing the Pope didn't start waving an L flag after he heard "Go Cubs!" in the crowd. Catholic giving on the Northside and NW suburbs might have decreased by 50% lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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