3 hours ago, Dick Allen said:

And they just keep doing it. I think a lot of it has to do with LaRussa. He loved to play guys where they didn't play. He once put Ron Kittle in CF.

Remember TLR played Mike Squires (who is left handed) at third base and catcher multiple times. 

2 hours ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

Moving Vargas off 3B is stupid.

Not stupid but White Sox.

From now on stupid is no longer in my vocabulary. I will use White Sox instead of stupid.

1 hour ago, nrockway said:

seems likely that Teel is coming up soon and the three catchers can all play first base. in addition to Sosa or Vargas or frankly anybody. first base is easy. 

Biggest myth in baseball

Elckohl deserves a 30-game run at 1B obviously. Opposite George at work here. Maroons all around. 

2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Also, thank fucking god Vaughn’s ass has been demoted.  Two years too late, but hopefully I never have to see him again in a Sox uniform (if I’m ever able to watch a Sox game again this year).

No longer watching games? Hate to hear that. 

10 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

No longer watching games? Hate to hear that. 

The way that’s worded makes it sound like he’s been too busy.

I pretty much agree that Elko should have been given a longer look. That said, sending Vaughn and Elko down seems to make sense if the purpose was to cut down on non-competitive at-bats, easy strike-outs in key at-bats, double play balls, and especially in Vaughn's case, a lack of speed on the bases.

One theory is that the Sox could be manipulating the roster to eventually open up a roster spot for Colson. I hope that isn't the case.

Only 3'ish years too late. They forced him into the lineup to justify the draft slot. Then they threw him into the outfield and said "good luck". He should sue the organization for malpractice. He is permanently broken and I doubt our "development staff" can fix him. Really sad. 

49 minutes ago, PitchatRisktoZisk said:

Only 3'ish years too late. They forced him into the lineup to justify the draft slot. Then they threw him into the outfield and said "good luck". He should sue the organization for malpractice. He is permanently broken and I doubt our "development staff" can fix him. Really sad. 

One of the last victims of Hahn forcing people into spots where they didn't belong due to a lack of minor league depth.

Remember when they wanted to try Burger at 2B or corner OF?  Sheets as well never should have spent one day in the OF.

And binging Rojas on board is forcing Vargas and Sosa to play away from their best positions as well as putting them at the one position they won't be able to carry offensively...which is first base.

 

At any rate, Elko and Vaughn now have a head to head competition for 1B back in Chicago.

Ramos and Colson, meanwhile, are fighting for their careers.

And Lee Thaiss Quero and Teel fighting their own catching battles as well as 1B/DH until that all sorts itself out.

But having some real competition is actually a good thing to finally see.

It also seems to have brought out the best in Baldwin so far...that jarring AAA wake up call.

 

Do we think that AV will be back in a few weeks with the claim he has 'fixed' things while at Charlotte or is this demotion a long term thing?

2 hours ago, Chimpton said:

Do we think that AV will be back in a few weeks with the claim he has 'fixed' things while at Charlotte or is this demotion a long term thing?

No idea.  Depends mostly on Vargas Sosa Elko and Vaughn himself.

Trade window would suggest 1-2 weeks at most to heal thyself.

Sheets celebrated with another homeo. We kept the wrong slug(ger). 

54 minutes ago, pcq said:

Sheets celebrated with another homeo. We kept the wrong slug(ger). 

I always liked Sheets better than Vaughn, they should have kept him and traded Vaughn last winter.

1 hour ago, pcq said:

Sheets celebrated with another homeo. We kept the wrong slug(ger). 

Gavin Sheets, 1B/OF, San Diego Padres (13%)

Sheets raced out to a scorching start for San Diego and never really faded. He's coming off a two-homer, five-RBI game on Thursday, which gives him eight bombs for the year. He was a buzzy name in the spring (6 HR, 1.077 OPS) and he's carried that level of performance into the regular season. Sheets has made significant gains in bat speed and exit velo, improvements that have clearly boosted his fantasy profile. If you're searching the free-agent pool for power, this is your guy.

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https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/gavin-sheets-657757?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb

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Just now, kitekrazy said:

Biggest myth in baseball

it's about relativity, dog. it's the easiest position to play. i think it was everybody's expectation that one of colson or quero would eventually play it.

Vaughn did not play for Charlotte last night. Elko did, however.

2 hours ago, pcq said:

Sheets celebrated with another homeo. We kept the wrong slug(ger). 

Sounds like it would have been more of the same even if we kept him. But I don’t think this is breaking news for anyone that follows the Sox.

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-white-sox/gavin-sheets-reflects-on-struggles-with-white-sox-i-lost-my-love-for-baseball/#:~:text=“ I definitely lost my love,what I want to do%3F

6 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

One of the last victims of Hahn forcing people into spots where they didn't belong due to a lack of minor league depth.

Remember when they wanted to try Burger at 2B or corner OF?  Sheets as well never should have spent one day in the OF.

And binging Rojas on board is forcing Vargas and Sosa to play away from their best positions as well as putting them at the one position they won't be able to carry offensively...which is first base.

 

At any rate, Elko and Vaughn now have a head to head competition for 1B back in Chicago.

Ramos and Colson, meanwhile, are fighting for their careers.

And Lee Thaiss Quero and Teel fighting their own catching battles as well as 1B/DH until that all sorts itself out.

But having some real competition is actually a good thing to finally see.

It also seems to have brought out the best in Baldwin so far...that jarring AAA wake up call.

 

Now Elko has Vaughn to mentor him! 

If they are actively working with Elko to shore up his deficiencies, that's fine; but if this is just to make room for utility veterans coming off of the injured list or to make room for Rojas to play 3d, it’s just silly.  Elko already won a game for the Sox.

15 hours ago, ChiSox59 said:

No longer watching games? Hate to hear that. 

I refuse to pay for the steaming network given how bad all the teams are.  I did buy an antenna to hopefully watch some games, but the on air stream quality is terrible for me.  Hoping it eventually gets added to YouTube TV, but that may be wishful thinking.

6 hours ago, pcq said:

Sheets celebrated with another homeo. We kept the wrong slug(ger). 

Man, Gavin Sheets would be a DFA candidate if he was here.

43 minutes ago, Quin said:

Man, Gavin Sheets would be a DFA candidate if he was here.

He was for years, and then he did.

8 hours ago, nrockway said:

it's about relativity, dog. it's the easiest position to play. i think it was everybody's expectation that one of colson or quero would eventually play it.

Myth

3 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I refuse to pay for the steaming network given how bad all the teams are.  I did buy an antenna to hopefully watch some games, but the on air stream quality is terrible for me.  Hoping it eventually gets added to YouTube TV, but that may be wishful thinking.

I did it so I could watch anyone but the Sox.  Still considering a divorce until JR and Getz are gone

12 hours ago, Chimpton said:

Do we think that AV will be back in a few weeks with the claim he has 'fixed' things while at Charlotte or is this demotion a long term thing?

For what they’re paying him, he will be back sooner than later.