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48 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

You also owe him the opportunity to go to a contender if there's a match.

No we don't.  

But we should move him if there is a "match" - but  fodder for Charlotte is not a match

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3 hours ago, SoxBlanco said:

And of course the grumpy pessimist who predicted 46 wins needs to chime in. 

The Sith always pop up if anything not negative is stated. Then will insist that everyone is saying the Sox are winning the world series and have a team of all-stars.

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34 minutes ago, ptatc said:

The Sith always pop up if anything not negative is stated. Then will insist that everyone is saying the Sox are winning the world series and have a team of all-stars.

Who would be happy being told by Getz not to expecting winning for basically three more years?

Especially when outspending any AL Central ownership group going into the 2027-28 labor impasse would allow them to instantly stockpile talent over the other four cash-strapped teams?

Instead Sox fans get 1994-95, Covid (when there's finally an exciting team after eight years) and now not even spending more than $5 million on a player...with promises basically NOT to spend in FA until 2028 at the earliest.

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5 hours ago, T R U said:

It is trending in the right direction, they’re still a bad baseball team. We don’t need a new gotcha thread every time they win a couple games. Anything good that’s not controllable will be stripped off this team in the next month or so, they are still a ways off from being a competitive team. 

This thread seems to bother you a little more than it should. 

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2 hours ago, ptatc said:

The Sith always pop up if anything not negative is stated. Then will insist that everyone is saying the Sox are winning the world series and have a team of all-stars.

Sure Baghdad Bob.

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5 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

What did he say that wasn’t true?

I didn’t say anything about his post wasn’t true. But the tone of his first two posts in this thread gives the impression that he got annoyed and bothered, and I’m not sure why. Even if the original post was overly optimistic, who cares? Maybe it’s because I’m more of an optimist than a pessimist, but I can’t imagine seeing somebody get excited about my favorite team and getting bothered by it, even if I didn’t agree with it. 

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16 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

I didn’t say anything about his post wasn’t true. But the tone of his first two posts in this thread gives the impression that he got annoyed and bothered, and I’m not sure why. Even if the original post was overly optimistic, who cares? Maybe it’s because I’m more of an optimist than a pessimist, but I can’t imagine seeing somebody get excited about my favorite team and getting bothered by it, even if I didn’t agree with it. 

I think the OP demanding an apology from people while we still sit 21 games under .500 is a bit much.  I’m excited about the young blood we have, this recent little surge has been fun, but it’s a long season left to go.  Nobody should be dunking right now

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If they blow through Houston, Texas, St.Louis and the Blue Jays over the next two weeks...well, that would be something.

Just playing .500 baseball would be a minor miracle.

All that said...finally playing some competitive games against Detroit and KC is decidedly progress, but Sox likely go 1-3 against Detroit if they hadn't pushed back Skubal for the Cubs.

 

Not to mention the two "best" players entering this season in Robert and Vaughn, essentially have negative value.

That's not going to be offset by trading off Tauchman, Slater, Booser, etc.

 

At least there seems to be a new spirit around the team with Vaughn's lingering mopiness exiled to CHLT.

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7 minutes ago, zisk said:

Tauchman and Slater are helping. And they aren't really holding anyone back. We need more outfield prospects.

Once upon a time we had Steele Walker, Call, Fisher, Luis Gonzalez, Rutherford, Adolfo, Cespedes...none of those guys made it, except Call eventually with Wash.

Now there's only Zavala and Wolkow behind Braden...both those guys are becoming longshots, same with Veras at AA.

Wolkow just might get the benefit for now on age....but the profile is a bit of mess right now.

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12 hours ago, T R U said:

Just sign another body then, it would be brain dead to not trade Tauchman this deadline if you get an offer. 

I think Tauchman is right now worth more to us than we would get in a trade, he’s a very good guy to have around. Of course things could change like a contender losing an outfielder and might overpay to get a guy like Tauchman.
 

 

 

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25 minutes ago, zisk said:

Tauchman and Slater are helping. And they aren't really holding anyone back. We need more outfield prospects.

Yup, they aren’t really blocking anyone other than maybe Baldwin, but he needed a bit more time in AAA anyways.  For those stanning for Fletcher, he’s almost 28 years old and is the definition of a tweener.  And he will likely get a shot after the trade deadline anyways.

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Also, for the record, people should be moderately excited that Tauchman and Slater have mostly worked out.  Yes, they have dealt with injuries which is not overly surprising given their age, but for dirt cheap veterans they have been super productive when available.  Right now, they are combined on a 2.75 win pace through 40% of the season and having missed 50% of playing time.  They are effectively producing at a 5.5 clip in a theoretical 600 PA season.  For less than $4M, that’s incredible value.  I’m not Chris Getz truther, but those are big wins for dumpster diving and something Hahn never found success in during his entire tenure.  Hell, Thais should be viewed as win as well a cheap veteran who was able to serve as a productive placeholder until the actual prospects were ready.  It’s clear to me that the pro scouting changes and investments in analytics are paying off to some extent.

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1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

Will the GM's of the White Sox, Marlins, Rockies or Pirates ever get another baseball job at that level or higher in the future?

Seems highly highly unlikely...

All depends on how the teams view their performance with the resources available to them.

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3 hours ago, SoxBlanco said:

I didn’t say anything about his post wasn’t true. But the tone of his first two posts in this thread gives the impression that he got annoyed and bothered, and I’m not sure why. Even if the original post was overly optimistic, who cares? Maybe it’s because I’m more of an optimist than a pessimist, but I can’t imagine seeing somebody get excited about my favorite team and getting bothered by it, even if I didn’t agree with it. 

If you’re excited about the team then post about what’s exciting. This is “Ha see you’re wrong this team is better than last year, eat s%*#” while they are going to win 55-60 games and are only saved by the Rockies from being the worst team, again. 

This post was never made to be excited about the team, it was made to stir s%*#. 

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30 minutes ago, T R U said:

If you’re excited about the team then post about what’s exciting. This is “Ha see you’re wrong this team is better than last year, eat s%*#” while they are going to win 55-60 games and are only saved by the Rockies from being the worst team, again. 

This post was never made to be excited about the team, it was made to stir s%*#. 

I mean, that’s fair. I understand what you’re saying. But it’s all cyclical with this message board (and probably every sports message board that ever existed). This “see you’re wrong!” post is a result of people questioning posts during the offseason where others were trying to be optimistic. And now that he made this post, I’m sure there will be somebody who throws it back in his face when things go south. And round and round we go. 

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32 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

I mean, that’s fair. I understand what you’re saying. But it’s all cyclical with this message board (and probably every sports message board that ever existed). This “see you’re wrong!” post is a result of people questioning posts during the offseason where others were trying to be optimistic. And now that he made this post, I’m sure there will be somebody who throws it back in his face when things go south. And round and round we go. 

Most likely, but it’s win win for me either way. Either the Sox suck and I told you so, or they’re way better and my favorite team is good again, in which case I win again 😁

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4 hours ago, T R U said:

If you’re excited about the team then post about what’s exciting. This is “Ha see you’re wrong this team is better than last year, eat s%*#” while they are going to win 55-60 games and are only saved by the Rockies from being the worst team, again. 

This post was never made to be excited about the team, it was made to stir s%*#. 

I can understand why you bristle at people who have been called names and jeered all winter feeling vindicated by this team's improved play. Especially when you were pounding the lectern with stuff like this:

Own it, take the L, and quit hating on the happy people. 

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On 6/7/2025 at 10:34 AM, vilehoopster said:

Statement 1)  This year's Sox are not any better or are not significantly/ noticeably better than last year's Sox. I don't think I need to even put for reasons for this; it is now clearly obvious. 

I think it's fair that some looked at the team in spring training, and concluded it was the same level as last year's team. Especially when it looked like we were replacing guys like Nicky Lopez with the slightest of upgrades. But I agree that if anybody's grousing now by saying this team is as bad as last year's, that's really not accurate. You can see an actual core group gelling, and maybe none of Vargas, Elko, Sosa, Davis Martin, Burke, etc. are on the next winning team, but at least it looks like a step B team instead of the same old garbage. 

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27 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

I can understand why you bristle at people who have been called names and jeered all winter feeling vindicated by this team's improved play. Especially when you were pounding the lectern with stuff like this:

Own it, take the L, and quit hating on the happy people. 

I’m not hating on anyone, once again you’re beating your chest over a team that’s going to win 60 or less games. Get a life dude, don’t drag me into your troll routine. 

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