vilehoopster Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 (edited) First of all, you who have been making these statements know who you are,and it's time to admit that you were wrong. Statement 1) This year's Sox are not any better or are not significantly/ noticeably better than last year's Sox. I don't think I need to even put for reasons for this; it is now clearly obvious. Statement 2) Getz should never have signed Slater and Tauchman. When they are on the field, they make the Sox team clearly better, both offensively and defensively. They both make good decisions and do the little things (put down a bunt/ take walks) that set good examples and help the team win. Plus for their value to the team, their price tags are cheap (this is obvious or the Sox would not have signed them). ** The part of the argument against signing them that almost makes me laugh out loud is the idea that baseball is a "young" man's game, and since they're over 30, they're too old, their skills have deserted them, and they're injury prone. This cracks me up because there are probably over 50 players in both the NFL and NBA over 30 doing just fine, and players in those sports put more physical stress on their bodies in 4 minutes of action than a MLB player will in a three game series. **** Since we won last night, let's keep trying to win, and that means put the best players on the field for the entire series. I want to see Tauchman and Slater in the lineup both today and Sunday. Of course get Teel in there and the others, but I don't want to see Capra or Palacious unless it a situational thing. We want to win; play our best players. They get Monday off and can rest then; let's do everything we can to win this series, maybe sweep. Edited June 7 by vilehoopster error 4 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Can we also add the “Meidroth is Madrigal” comps as well? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 2 hours ago, vilehoopster said: First of all, you who have been making these statements know who you are,and it's time to admit that you were wrong. Statement 1) This year's Sox are not any better or are not significantly/ noticeably better than last year's Sox. I don't think I need to even put for reasons for this; it is now clearly obvious. Statement 2) Getz should never have signed Slater and Tauchman. When they are on the field, they make the Sox team clearly better, both offensively and defensively. They both make good decisions and do the little things (put down a bunt/ take walks) that set good examples and help the team win. Plus for their value to the team, their price tags are cheap (this is obvious or the Sox would not have signed them). ** The part of the argument against signing them that almost makes me laugh out loud is the idea that baseball is a "young" man's game, and since they're over 30, they're too old, their skills have deserted them, and they're injury prone. This cracks me up because there are probably over 50 players in both the NFL and NBA over 30 doing just fine, and players in those sports put more physical stress on their bodies in 4 minutes of action than a MLB player will in a three game series. **** Since we won last night, let's keep trying to win, and that means put the best players on the field for the entire series. I want to see Tauchman and Slater in the lineup both today and Sunday. Of course get Teel in there and the others, but I don't want to see Capra or Palacious unless it a situational thing. We want to win; play our best players. They get Monday off and can rest then; let's do everything we can to win this series, maybe sweep. Excellent post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 They still aren't. Signing meaningless old players who block the kids for a few more wins in 2025 doesn't do this franchise any good in the long run. This is all about development. Everything else is slight of hand. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 17 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: They still aren't. Signing meaningless old players who block the kids for a few more wins in 2025 doesn't do this franchise any good in the long run. This is all about development. Everything else is sleight of hand. What kids are they blocking? 4 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Tauchmann is way better than the other stiffs we've tried to play in that spot the last few seasons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 4 hours ago, vilehoopster said: First of all, you who have been making these statements know who you are,and it's time to admit that you were wrong. Statement 1) This year's Sox are not any better or are not significantly/ noticeably better than last year's Sox. I don't think I need to even put for reasons for this; it is now clearly obvious. Statement 2) Getz should never have signed Slater and Tauchman. When they are on the field, they make the Sox team clearly better, both offensively and defensively. They both make good decisions and do the little things (put down a bunt/ take walks) that set good examples and help the team win. Plus for their value to the team, their price tags are cheap (this is obvious or the Sox would not have signed them). ** The part of the argument against signing them that almost makes me laugh out loud is the idea that baseball is a "young" man's game, and since they're over 30, they're too old, their skills have deserted them, and they're injury prone. This cracks me up because there are probably over 50 players in both the NFL and NBA over 30 doing just fine, and players in those sports put more physical stress on their bodies in 4 minutes of action than a MLB player will in a three game series. **** Since we won last night, let's keep trying to win, and that means put the best players on the field for the entire series. I want to see Tauchman and Slater in the lineup both today and Sunday. Of course get Teel in there and the others, but I don't want to see Capra or Palacious unless it a situational thing. We want to win; play our best players. They get Monday off and can rest then; let's do everything we can to win this series, maybe sweep. Uh, ok. It is a statement of fact that they are better this year. They were 30th best team last year. This year they are 29th. They are in fact better than last year. Other fans are on board, too. A 5 percent increase in attendance over this point last year. We are watching a sleeping giant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Keeping players that age healthy/available is the problem. Granted, there are not any outfielders between Chicago and Braden pushing for time unless you really buy into Julks and Fletcher's AAA numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 4 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said: Excellent post. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: What kids are they blocking? Same question here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 4 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said: Excellent post. This year they are building a lineup that could last a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Such a dumb thread, you realize this team is the second worst team in baseball and pacing out for like 55 wins right? “At least they’re marginally better than the worst team in baseball history” is as low of a bar you can get. These turds always come out after they win a couple games before they inevitably look totally inept again. 4 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 1 hour ago, T R U said: Such a dumb thread, you realize this team is the second worst team in baseball and pacing out for like 55 wins right? “At least they’re marginally better than the worst team in baseball history” is as low of a bar you can get. These turds always come out after they win a couple games before they inevitably look totally inept again. I mean, the young guys look extremely promising and the pitching staff looks good and has a ton of control. I think it's easy to see it's trending in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 23 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: I mean, the young guys look extremely promising and the pitching staff looks good and has a ton of control. I think it's easy to see it's trending in the right direction. It is trending in the right direction, they’re still a bad baseball team. We don’t need a new gotcha thread every time they win a couple games. Anything good that’s not controllable will be stripped off this team in the next month or so, they are still a ways off from being a competitive team. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 4 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: They still aren't. Signing meaningless old players who block the kids for a few more wins in 2025 doesn't do this franchise any good in the long run. This is all about development. Everything else is sleight of hand. And of course the grumpy pessimist who predicted 46 wins needs to chime in. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 11 minutes ago, T R U said: It is trending in the right direction, they’re still a bad baseball team. We don’t need a new gotcha thread every time they win a couple games. Anything good that’s not controllable will be stripped off this team in the next month or so, they are still a ways off from being a competitive team. What is "good but not controllable" on this team right now? Two of the bullpen arms and Houser? That's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 13 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: What is "good but not controllable" on this team right now? Two of the bullpen arms and Houser? That's about it. Tauchman and possibly Slater as well I can see being useful to someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 19 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: What is "good but not controllable" on this team right now? Two of the bullpen arms and Houser? That's about it. Booser probably has some value and he's already into his early 30s. Depends on the offers, as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 14 minutes ago, T R U said: Tauchman and possibly Slater as well I can see being useful to someone. They do control Tauchman for next year. I could see them keeping him around possibly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 24 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: They do control Tauchman for next year. I could see them keeping him around possibly. What's the upside of keeping him over his current value? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 14 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: What's the upside of keeping him over his current value? At least one steady hand in the outfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 8 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Can we also add the “Meidroth is Madrigal” comps as well? On one of those Athletic podcasts, ole Eno was trying to make that comparison, but Jed Lowrie, pro infielder turned analyst, was having none of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 8 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: At least one steady hand in the outfield. Just sign another body then, it would be brain dead to not trade Tauchman this deadline if you get an offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 55 minutes ago, T R U said: Just sign another body then, it would be brain dead to not trade Tauchman this deadline if you get an offer. For a real prospect, yes trade. For a Rule 5 guy, the likely offer, keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 9 minutes ago, GreenSox said: For a real prospect, yes trade. For a Rule 5 guy, the likely offer, keep him. You also owe him the opportunity to go to a contender if there's a match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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