wegner Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 6 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said: The Sox only trade pitchers at the height of their value....for position players, they wait until they have no value. It is a complicated model. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chisoxmb35 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Colson Montgomery is going to be a superstar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 39 minutes ago, Chisoxmb35 said: Colson Montgomery is going to be a superstar. As long as his back hold up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrittBurnsFan Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 16 hours ago, Chisoxmb35 said: Colson Montgomery is going to be a superstar. I hope so...and yet it amazes me that a .239 hitter gets so much praise! When I was young...Colson's numbers would remind me of a Rob Deer type hitter...which is OK...but not a phenom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 2 hours ago, BrittBurnsFan said: I hope so...and yet it amazes me that a .239 hitter gets so much praise! When I was young...Colson's numbers would remind me of a Rob Deer type hitter...which is OK...but not a phenom! I think Colson's floor is early Paul DeJong. Not one of the game's superstars, but an All-Star, and certainly above average. Dude has elite bat speed, and defends the hardest position very well. Deer could barely play RF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Will Warren Shane Smith 0.6 bWAR 2.6 bWAR 4.44 ERA 3.81 ERA 162.1 IP 146.1 IP 171 SO 145 SO I am simply #noticing and #observing https://t.co/aioJUEizFn — Spooky Brett (@haffball7) October 2, 2025 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) I think it’s a bit funny that some people are mildly excited about Vargas and his 1.8 bWAR in a full season (569 PA). Meanwhile, Matt Shaw put up a 3.1 bWAR in his rookie season in 437 PA. He just started hitting in the second half. I think he’s going to be a damn good 3B. I doubt the Cubs were ever going to trade him but I would hope Getz at least tried to acquire him somehow. Edited October 3 by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 12 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I think it’s a bit funny that some people are mildly excited about Vargas and his 1.8 bWAR in a full season (569 PA). Meanwhile, Matt Shaw put up a 3.1 bWAR in his rookie season in 437 PA. He just started hitting in the second half. I think he’s going to be a damn good 3B. I doubt the Cubs were ever going to trade him but I would hope Getz at least tried to acquire him somehow. They were never gonna trade him 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 15 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I think it’s a bit funny that some people are mildly excited about Vargas and his 1.8 bWAR in a full season (569 PA). Meanwhile, Matt Shaw put up a 3.1 bWAR in his rookie season in 437 PA. He just started hitting in the second half. I think he’s going to be a damn good 3B. I doubt the Cubs were ever going to trade him but I would hope Getz at least tried to acquire him somehow. I don't think they were trading Shaw. He was hitting the ball really well in the minors the past 2 years and plays a position they need. Vargas had a better season at the plate. For Shaw, I think the stolen bases and 400 more innings at 3rd base are doing the heavy lifting on the WAR front. The SBs are nice. Shaw is also a rookie and Vargas isn't. Def prefer the profile of the player on top though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) 22 minutes ago, fathom said: They were never gonna trade him Agreed. They would have been stupid to. Shaw is going to be really good. Power and defense at 3B. Just what you want in a 3B. Even some speed, but I’d tell him to chill on the SB so he doesn’t pull a hammy. Meanwhile, the aging and overpaid Alex Bregman finished the season with a 3.5 bWAR. Smartest non-signing the Cubs made this past offseason. Edited October 3 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 2 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I think it’s a bit funny that some people are mildly excited about Vargas and his 1.8 bWAR in a full season (569 PA). Meanwhile, Matt Shaw put up a 3.1 bWAR in his rookie season in 437 PA. He just started hitting in the second half. I think he’s going to be a damn good 3B. I doubt the Cubs were ever going to trade him but I would hope Getz at least tried to acquire him somehow. Vargas’ number were due in by his horrific start, I have confidence in him going forward. I’m excited to see him after another year of his new offseason plan. Regarding Matt Shaw, I don’t want him on my favorite time. He seems like a me guy and I think he’s a cowardly, not a good combination. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Boopa1219 said: Vargas’ number were due in by his horrific start, I have confidence in him going forward. I’m excited to see him after another year of his new offseason plan. Regarding Matt Shaw, I don’t want him on my favorite time. He seems like a me guy and I think he’s a cowardly, not a good combination. Are you referring to Vargas’ horrific start that lasted from the second the Sox acquired him into this season, along with his sporadic extremely long slumps? No offense, but you would be a complete and utter moron to not trade Vargas for Shaw in a straight up trade, even if the Cubs front office was high enough on meth to even make the offer. Shaw is younger, has more years of control, and IMHO, is much more likely to reach his peak. Shaw is apparently a cowardly “me” guy? What evidence do you have of this? Meanwhile, did you miss the hilarious “depressed” Vargas memes from last season once the Sox acquired him because he couldn’t buy a hit with his weekly salary? Who you crappin’?!? Edited October 3 by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 8 hours ago, Boopa1219 said: You know why I said what I said about Shaw. I’ll leave it at that. He’s not someone I would want to root for at all. You probably already root for “someone” like him but just don’t know it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 35 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: You probably already root for “someone” like him but just don’t know it. No doubt, but the not knowing it part is key. There’s no mystery with Shaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Guys we are gonna end this conversation about Shaw, unless we are keeping it at baseball. We all have our opinions on what happened with him, and those opinions aren’t going to flame this board one way or another. It’s ending now 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 So anyway, Colson rules. O/U 29.5 homers next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 52 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Guys we are gonna end this conversation about Shaw, unless we are keeping it at baseball. We all have our opinions on what happened with him, and those opinions aren’t going to flame this board one way or another. It’s ending now Is that the best you can do, Kyyle, or did you do something more profound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 3 minutes ago, oldsox said: Is that the best you can do, Kyyle, or did you do something more profound? Look, I’m not looking to foster this argument. If you don’t like it, tough s%*#. I’m sure you could be profound, but you choose to post the way you do instead, and I accept you for being that way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 On 9/28/2025 at 1:34 PM, WestEddy said: I think Colson's floor is early Paul DeJong. Not one of the game's superstars, but an All-Star, and certainly above average. Dude has elite bat speed, and defends the hardest position very well. Deer could barely play RF. I would not be surprised if Montgomery has way more power than DeJong. He probably already does. Although DeJong did have a 30 HR season early in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 55 minutes ago, Snopek said: So anyway, Colson rules. O/U 29.5 homers next year? Over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Deer had crazy power. I was only baseball “aware” of him at the end of his career, so all I remember is he was good for 3 ks and a homer that might leave the stadium. Crazy he had his best year with Detroit in 92 which was almost the end for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 20 minutes ago, oldsox said: Is that the best you can do, Kyyle, or did you do something more profound? Give the hurt feelings a rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: Guys we are gonna end this conversation about Shaw, unless we are keeping it at baseball. We all have our opinions on what happened with him, and those opinions aren’t going to flame this board one way or another. It’s ending now We’re having civil debate, it’s what (redacted) would want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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