1 hour ago, Snopek said:

So anyway, Colson rules.

O/U 29.5 homers next year?

Over, I expect him to get his OBP up considerably too. Pitchers won’t pitch to him as much next season.

3 minutes ago, Boopa1219 said:

We’re having civil debate, it’s what (redacted) would want

I’m gonna ask you one more time to end this.  
 

41 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

I’m gonna ask you one more time to end this.  
 

And to be clear, while it is civil now, it won't stay that way.  Someone will come in and turn up the temp, and we already know, someone is waiting to cry about what is said.

4 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I would not be surprised if Montgomery has way more power than DeJong.  He probably already does.  Although DeJong did have a 30 HR season early in his career.

DeJong had game power and elite defense. I think Colson has better power, and his defense can be up there. I'm not good enough to decide if it's "elite", but he sure looks pretty good. 

That's why I say that DeJong is Colson's floor. If you get around 15 bWAR during Colson's 6-7 years of control, that would be a disappointment, but still a win considering his draft position. 

I'm happy for both as players.

Imagine being in Vargas' shoes going from the Dodgers to the Sox and being exposed to Grtifol.

Colson wondering if he is going to waste away in Charlotte. I applaud the Sox for risking the sink or swim.

Nice to see something work out for the Sox even if it fails long term.

1 hour ago, WestEddy said:

DeJong had game power and elite defense. I think Colson has better power, and his defense can be up there. I'm not good enough to decide if it's "elite", but he sure looks pretty good. 

That's why I say that DeJong is Colson's floor. If you get around 15 bWAR during Colson's 6-7 years of control, that would be a disappointment, but still a win considering his draft position. 

Colson's floor is what we saw with is back injuries and his sub .100 stretches with a ton of strikeouts.

8 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Colson's floor is what we saw with is back injuries and his sub .100 stretches with a ton of strikeouts.

Hopefully the Sox have an amazing chiropractor that can keep it under control.  Do players live on cortisone shots these days?

21 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Hopefully the Sox have an amazing chiropractor that can keep it under control.  Do players live on cortisone shots these days?

Chiropractor? Bite your tongue. 😀

Cortisone no more than 2 times per year. In the back they usually use inject a prednisone or dexamethisone, less damaging to the area.

4 hours ago, ptatc said:

Chiropractor? Bite your tongue. 😀

Cortisone no more than 2 times per year. In the back they usually use inject a prednisone or dexamethisone, less damaging to the area.

Curious.  In your opinion, is “Chiropracty” bogus?  I know my old man had it done a few times on his back and it felt good for a few weeks but he said it would hurt again after a couple weeks and he would have to go back over and over.  Is it just a continuous scam which just relieves pain temporarily?

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20 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Curious.  In your opinion, is “Chiropracty” bogus?  I know my old man had it done a few times on his back and it felt good for a few weeks but he said it would hurt again after a couple weeks and he would have to go back over and over.  Is it just a continuous scam which just relieves pain temporarily?

I speak in half jest. PT and chiropractic care have different philosophies for treatment. They have a very good specific treatment effectiveness. However, in general patients need to continuously go for treatment to improve symptoms.

I can't believe it's offseason already ... what does a player like Colson do now? Take 2 months off? Then start running and hitting in cage? Or do they keep working starting now? He had that home run stroke going for the Sox. Must be scary to take a lot of time off then try to reclaim the magic during spring training.

2 hours ago, ptatc said:

I speak in half jest. PT and chiropractic care have different philosophies for treatment. They have a very good specific treatment effectiveness. However, in general patients need to continuously go for treatment to improve symptoms.

Which makes it the perfect return business, whether unintended or not.  🤑

1 hour ago, greg775 said:

I can't believe it's offseason already ... what does a player like Colson do now? Take 2 months off? Then start running and hitting in cage? Or do they keep working starting now? He had that home run stroke going for the Sox. Must be scary to take a lot of time off then try to reclaim the magic during spring training.

Most guys take a few weeks to a month off then get back slowly into getting ready for spring training. A lot of players have personal trainers that they work with over the off season. 

3 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Most guys take a few weeks to a month off then get back slowly into getting ready for spring training. A lot of players have personal trainers that they work with over the off season. 

I believe a group of these guys are getting together in Nashville to train and work out together. 

9 hours ago, greg775 said:

I can't believe it's offseason already ... what does a player like Colson do now? Take 2 months off? Then start running and hitting in cage? Or do they keep working starting now? He had that home run stroke going for the Sox. Must be scary to take a lot of time off then try to reclaim the magic during spring training.

He is a young single guy with lots of money. What do you think he might doing?

Not bad for half a season and the early season struggles/AZ hail mary

https://www.mlb.com/news/colson-montgomery-fifth-in-2025-al-rookie-of-the-year-voting

12 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

Not bad for half a season and the early season struggles/AZ hail mary

https://www.mlb.com/news/colson-montgomery-fifth-in-2025-al-rookie-of-the-year-voting

Yeah. Wild ride

37 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

Not bad for half a season and the early season struggles/AZ hail mary

https://www.mlb.com/news/colson-montgomery-fifth-in-2025-al-rookie-of-the-year-voting

Apparently, a Seattle writer gave Monty his one 2nd place vote, and also voted for Shane Smith 4th or 5th. 

49 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

Not bad for half a season and the early season struggles/AZ hail mary

https://www.mlb.com/news/colson-montgomery-fifth-in-2025-al-rookie-of-the-year-voting

I don't think I can recall a stranger season than Colson had.  Some days he was a completely unplayable mess, and others he looked like a superstar.  I literally have zero idea what to expect from him.

Among the seas of failure, this guy has been incredible.

Since debuting last year, he has been the 15th most valuable player in baseball per fWAR, the 8th best defensive player based on an aggregate of the 5 most viable major defensive metrics, he has the 7th most home runs, the 5th most RBI's, and his wRC+ of 128 is 2 points behind Bobby Witt (130). He has been a SUPERSTAR. He's currently on a 6.5 WAR pace and that's with running a .239 BABIP. The only thing Colson needs to work on is his base running.

When he started slow, the negative nancy's were out in full force. When he had one rough year in the minors, most jumped off the wagon. Kid is an elite athlete, with a great swing and incredible range.

Give him his roses, because the White Sox aren't even giving him the respect he deserves and has earned.

Most underrated and overlooked player in MLB. What he's doing as a 23 year old player with 80 games under his belt is wild.

Edited Thursday at 05:45 PM1 day by Look at Ray Ray Run

I truly hope there have been talks with him on a long term extension. Lock him up please.

6 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

I truly hope there have been talks with him on a long term extension. Lock him up please.

Man would I love to know more about the injury stuff, and if the slump last year was related to that.

47 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Among the seas of failure, this guy has been incredible.

Since debuting last year, he has been the 15th most valuable player in baseball per fWAR, the 8th best defensive player based on an aggregate of the 5 most viable major defensive metrics, he has the 7th most home runs, the 5th most RBI's, and his wRC+ of 128 is 2 points behind Bobby Witt (130). He has been a SUPERSTAR. He's currently on a 6.5 WAR pace and that's with running a .239 BABIP. The only thing Colson needs to work on is his base running.

When he started slow, the negative nancy's were out in full force. When he had one rough year in the minors, most jumped off the wagon. Kid is an elite athlete, with a great swing and incredible range.

Give him his roses, because the White Sox aren't even giving him the respect he deserves and has earned.

Most underrated and overlooked player in MLB. What he's doing as a 23 year old player with 80 games under his belt is wild.

So who is the best player comp to him these days? Still Corey Seager, but with more power but lower BA? Or someone else? Asking cuz I see you mentioned Bobby Witt…

Edited Thursday at 06:32 PM1 day by WhiteSox2023

11 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

So who is the best player comp to him these days? Still Corey Seager, but with more power but lower BA? Or someone else? Asking cuz I see you mentioned Bobby Witt…

He is a unicorn. There's never been a SS in MLB history with his batting profile, at least so far. I mean who is the last MLB SS to be on pace for 40+ HR, 6 WAR, while hitting 230? It's probably never happened. Part of it is environment but part of it is just Colson is insane.

10 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

So who is the best player comp to him these days? Still Corey Seager, but with more power but lower BA? Or someone else?

Defensively, he reminds me a lot of JJ Hardy, but with a little better range and a little lighter arm. Super smooth, and makes all the plays look easier than they are.

Offensively, he's his own guy - unique to his position. He reminds me a little of a young Bellinger with the violence and path of his swing, with a little less unwinding/corking. He's got a lot more power than Seager, but Seagers hit tool is much better. If I had to pick a short stop, the guy most similar to him, in my opinion, plays today for the Orioles. Him and Gunnar are a lot a like, difference being Gunnar has already dropped an 8 WAR season in his career.