15 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

He’s got a s%*# arm…definitely a 2B/1B profile.

Sounds a lot like Luke Keaschall.

20 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Great we have about five 3B now...it's also Bonemer's best position, arguably.

Jeral Perez ends up there too.

Maybe Antonacci...if he's not at second.

The next time an entire list of names becomes relevant in the future will be the first.

11 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

It’s not a player option.  It’s a team option.  The Sox get to make the choice of giving him $20 million for 2026 or the $2 million buyout, not Robert.  And you have to assume the Sox made the decision to pay him for next season.  Otherwise, why not just trade him for a weak return anyways?

How can they decide that without seeing the final two months play out?

Blind faith alone?

The last month of play has now convinced them he's finally back to 2023 peak Robert?

Mead sounds good. They should call him "Lake." Simple nickname.

Tauchmann deserves our praise not scorn. He's almost hitting .300 which puts him at No. 18 overall in AL. He is a stud.

26 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Yep, and Tauchman will be in RF with perhaps Mead at 1B.  Doesn’t seem like they will be spending on starting position players in the offseason.

I think most people have been saying that all season in light of the labor impasse coming in 2027

 

Lets have a moment of silence for the Rays fan that posted this at the beginning of the season. 

12 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

How can they decide that without seeing the final two months play out?

Blind faith alone?

The last month of play has now convinced them he's finally back to 2023 peak Robert?

I already explained it in my previous post.  If they don’t pick up the option and see if Robert can increase his value by either the offseason or the next trade deadline, and instead give him his $2 million buyout, they fucked up period by not just accepting a lesser return for him.

Surprise, GM’s have to plan ahead!

Edited July 31, 2025Jul 31 by WhiteSox2023

I have no clue why the Rays gave up so much for Adrian Houser while selling some of their other big league pieces. They currently have a 10% probability of making the playoffs per FanGraphs.

11 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

The next time an entire list of names becomes relevant in the future will be the first.

The fucking problem is we don't have any future outfielders...just Braden.

Can barely figure out how to get two catchers into the lineup and now we have way way too many infielders.

No list needed to figure out that.

This stupid franchise deserves to be contracted.

3 AAAA losers for 1 MLB starter who is pitching well. lousy trade. Maybe Charlotte will be .500

next year. WTF?

 

Currently Getz is saying they plan on Robert being here. 

11 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

The fucking problem is we don't have any future outfielders...just Braden.

Can barely figure out how to get two catchers into the lineup and now we have way way too many infielders.

No list needed to figure out that.

This stupid franchise deserves to be contracted.

This went from 0 to 60. 

11 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

they fucked up period by not just accepting a lesser return for him.

there you go, corrected

JR won't invest 33% of payroll into Robert next year.

Period.

End of story.

11 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

The fucking problem is we don't have any future outfielders...just Braden.

Can barely figure out how to get two catchers into the lineup and now we have way way too many infielders.

No list needed to figure out that.

This stupid franchise deserves to be contracted.

No duh.

 

 

9 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

there you go, corrected

JR won't invest 33% of payroll into Robert next year.

Period.

End of story.

I am dubious they would, but a decision had to be made before Getz decided to pass on any offers for Robert.  I assume it was discussed already between Getz and Jerry.

9 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Currently Getz is saying they plan on Robert being here. 

The Plan

Getz: Please!

Jerry: No

Getz: PLEASE

Jerry: No

Getz Pleeeaaaase

Jerry: No

Getz: pretty please

Jerry: No

16 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

The fucking problem is we don't have any future outfielders...just Braden.

Can barely figure out how to get two catchers into the lineup and now we have way way too many infielders.

No list needed to figure out that.

This stupid franchise deserves to be contracted.

Why do both catchers need to be in the lineup? If their bats only play at catcher, they deserve to rotate. 

If Getz thinks getting another Vargas might help, he should be fired right now. Nothing

against MV, but he'll never be an assett on a good team. 

17 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

 

 

 

Folks not appreciating that Mead is a premium hitting talent who has never gotten more than 135 plate appearances in a single MLB season to get anything going. If you insist on getting a player who has never failed before you are likely to only get one who fails in the future. Mead's initial call-ups have seen him blocked by some legit major leaguers around the infield: Isaac Paredes, Wander Franco, Brandon Lowe, Yandy Diaz, Jose Caballero, Junior Caminero, Jonathan Aranda, etc. It's not like the Rays have been starved for 3B/2B production and gave him every chance but he failed (like what happened with Vargas in LA). Mead has been doing injury fill-ins, occasional platoons, etc. Not a perfect environment for success. That doesn't mean he's a guaranteed superstar or something, but if all you do is glance at the back of the baseball card you're missing important information.

Houser has pitched fantastically for the past 11 or 12 starts with all signs pointing to him pitching something more like "competently" for the rest of the season before he becomes a free agent. I think that has real value to the right team, but the Sox got some real value coming back. 

Not a bad return here. We will see what Fuller can do with Mead. The arms also seem interesting.

12 minutes ago, Jake said:

Folks not appreciating that Mead is a premium hitting talent who has never gotten more than 135 plate appearances in a single MLB season to get anything going. If you insist on getting a player who has never failed before you are likely to only get one who fails in the future. Mead's initial call-ups have seen him blocked by some legit major leaguers around the infield: Isaac Paredes, Wander Franco, Brandon Lowe, Yandy Diaz, Jose Caballero, Junior Caminero, Jonathan Aranda, etc. It's not like the Rays have been starved for 3B/2B production and gave him every chance but he failed (like what happened with Vargas in LA). Mead has been doing injury fill-ins, occasional platoons, etc. Not a perfect environment for success. That doesn't mean he's a guaranteed superstar or something, but if all you do is glance at the back of the baseball card you're missing important information.

Houser has pitched fantastically for the past 11 or 12 starts with all signs pointing to him pitching something more like "competently" for the rest of the season before he becomes a free agent. I think that has real value to the right team, but the Sox got some real value coming back. 

It was a nice trade but see Miguel Vargas.  There’s no reason to be excited until these guys (Vargas and Mead) prove they can hit consistently and not just hover around a .700 OPS and 1 WAR.

14 minutes ago, zisk said:

If Getz thinks getting another Vargas might help, he should be fired right now. Nothing

against MV, but he'll never be an assett on a good team. 

 

Vargas is head and shoulders better now than when he first got here. He has a shot at 20 HRs this season. There are some things on his swing he still needs to work on but he has the look of a solid 2 WAR player with a bit more consistency. 

43 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Sounds like you got the data…prove me wrong.

I do have enough data to look at it but I've had a hard time getting someone to define post-hype prospect. 

The implications here would be that models move projections too soon, and weight that mlb performance too heavily, for a given subset of former prospects deemed post hype. I would be interested in diving into this but need some fixed parameters that aren't feels.