sin city sox fan Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Starting the day on Sunday, August 3, the Sox are 42-69. We'd have to go 39-12 the rest of the way to reach .500 (still miss the playoffs but it would be quite the story). I know it would be destroy our chances of getting a top draft pick but I think the momentum it would bring into next season would be worth it (it might even convince JR to open the checkbook). I believe its possible....do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 I don't think it's possible, but it seems pretty damn likely they might avoid losing 100 games which is a miracle in of itself. Especially with how well they've played once the young guys took over completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 (edited) 30 minutes ago, sin city sox fan said: Starting the day on Sunday, August 3, the Sox are 42-69. We'd have to go 39-12 the rest of the way to reach .500 (still miss the playoffs but it would be quite the story). I know it would be destroy our chances of getting a top draft pick but I think the momentum it would bring into next season would be worth it (it might even convince JR to open the checkbook). I believe its possible....do you? No, that’s asking a lot, if they get to 70 wins it would be damn good and if team continues to improve JR has to spend some money were they can compete for a WC next year. Edited August 3 by The Mighty Mite 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 The Sox have 19 games after today against probable playoff teams. (Sea(3), Det(6), Yanks(7), SD(3)) If they go an insane 10-9 in those games, they then have 31 games against other teams that they'd have to play at a 28-3 pace against. (Cle(6), KC(6), Atl(3), Min(7), TB(3), Bal(3), Was(3)) I have argued that it's possible for the Sox to play close to .500 ball the rest of the way, but I don't see them ending up a .500 team for the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 1 hour ago, The Mighty Mite said: No, that’s asking a lot, if they get to 70 wins it would be damn good and if team continues to improve JR has to spend some money were they can compete for a WC next year. With the upcoming labor impasse he has a perfect excuse not to do so. Getz will spend some money but it isn't going to be on talent that will move the needle much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Baldwin with another line drive hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 35 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: With the upcoming labor impasse he has a perfect excuse not to do so. Getz will spend some money but it isn't going to be on talent that will move the needle much. Tauchman and Houser moved the needle quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 14 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Tauchman and Houser moved the needle quite a bit. Right...they went from 41 wins to maybe 60. If that's moving things "quite a bit" I envy your definition. Is it progress? of course. But it's pretty hard NOT to be better than having the worst single season in the modern era of MLB. How can you NOT be better? Real progress comes when Ishbia takes over, brings in competent people to run the franchise and we can think, with a very reasonable chance of it happening, that the Sox can finish at least, with a winning record, which was usually the case from 1981-2006. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 23 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Right...they went from 41 wins to maybe 60. If that's moving things "quite a bit" I envy your definition. Is it progress? of course. But it's pretty hard NOT to be better than having the worst single season in the modern era of MLB. How can you NOT be better? Real progress comes when Ishbia takes over, brings in competent people to run the franchise and we can think, with a very reasonable chance of it happening, that the Sox can finish at least, with a winning record, which was usually the case from 1981-2006. Most players aren't going to move the needle more than a couple of wins. You don't need to envy my definition. A player adding 2+ wins can be your definition of moving the needle, too. It's perfectly reasonable. A bunch of people said this team would lose more games than last year, so no, I don't agree with you that it would have been hard to not be better. The league didn't take players away from other teams and put them on the White Sox to make it fair. The league didn't gift runs to the Sox so that they could win more games this year. It's easy to criticize every single move a team makes, then when they work, pretend that it would have been hard for those moves to not work. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 4 hours ago, sin city sox fan said: Starting the day on Sunday, August 3, the Sox are 42-69. We'd have to go 39-12 the rest of the way to reach .500 (still miss the playoffs but it would be quite the story). I know it would be destroy our chances of getting a top draft pick but I think the momentum it would bring into next season would be worth it (it might even convince JR to open the checkbook). I believe its possible....do you? If they play .500 ball down the stretch that should be considered a win. Coughing up 5 run leads doesn’t inspire that sort of confidence though. 70 wins feels like a stretch as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimpton Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 10 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: Right...they went from 41 wins to maybe 60. If that's moving things "quite a bit" I envy your definition. Is it progress? of course. But it's pretty hard NOT to be better than having the worst single season in the modern era of MLB. How can you NOT be better? Real progress comes when Ishbia takes over, brings in competent people to run the franchise and we can think, with a very reasonable chance of it happening, that the Sox can finish at least, with a winning record, which was usually the case from 1981-2006. Improving by 19 wins is 'quite a bit' but only if that is repeated again next season when some of the young players will have to adjust to the league adjusting to them. Although 41 wins was an embarrasssingly low starting point, many on here were predicting another season as bad or marginally better. They were never going to go from a 41 win team to a .500 team in one season or even 2, to be honest they have improved more than I thought Getz was capable of achieving, although some of that will be just from not having Grifol as manager! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 11 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: Right...they went from 41 wins to maybe 60. If that's moving things "quite a bit" I envy your definition. Is it progress? of course. But it's pretty hard NOT to be better than having the worst single season in the modern era of MLB. How can you NOT be better? Real progress comes when Ishbia takes over, brings in competent people to run the franchise and we can think, with a very reasonable chance of it happening, that the Sox can finish at least, with a winning record, which was usually the case from 1981-2006. Realistically, they were competitive in 2008 2010 2012. Ventura's second season they started to bottom out. Then they had that "false flag start" of 23-10 in 2016 that provided them enough hope to make the ill-fated James Shields trade with SD after he'd won a WS ring with the Royals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 I've read twice that "many people here said they'd be worse this year than last." To that comment I ask, who said that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 13 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I've read twice that "many people here said they'd be worse this year than last." To that comment I ask, who said that? I said that. There were some others as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 29 minutes ago, T R U said: I said that. There were some others as well. Thanks, I remembered the prediction thread and the vast majority (from what I recall) said they'd be better than last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 58 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I've read twice that "many people here said they'd be worse this year than last." To that comment I ask, who said that? I said that, believing that at the deadline they really would get rid of players. so, I won’t do that again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilehoopster Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 I think the overall opinion on win totals, when people were predicting as the season was about to start, was that just by random chance, it was all but impossible for the White Sox not to win five or six more games, just because so many things went wrong to reach the 41 win total; and that the odds were strong that the Sox had to improve, at least, a few games, even if the personal on team wasn't any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilehoopster Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Now, I am Mr. Over-Optimistic on this board, and get grief for it now and then, but even I have to say that the idea Sox can win 81 games this year is rather silly. I think winning 70 games is realistically out of reach. I would say that making 63, my preseason prediction and goal, is slightly, slightly less likely than 50/ 50. If they can stay hot for a couple more weeks, than winning 63 becomes probable and maybe they can even reach 65 or so wins. Would winning 24 or more games over last year, an over 50% increase in wins, would that be enough for Lipman to consider that the White Sox have moved things forward "quite a bit"? Probably not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 I always look for Mighty Mite's post on wins and losses, optimistic but not over the top. My early win total for the 2026 Sox: + 30-35 wins over 2024 season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 (edited) 3 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I've read twice that "many people here said they'd be worse this year than last." To that comment I ask, who said that? Just the first two I found. Edited August 4 by WestEddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 14 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Just the first two I found. I'll raise my hand and eat mad crow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 (edited) 9 hours ago, vilehoopster said: Now, I am Mr. Over-Optimistic on this board, and get grief for it now and then, but even I have to say that the idea Sox can win 81 games this year is rather silly. I think winning 70 games is realistically out of reach. I would say that making 63, my preseason prediction and goal, is slightly, slightly less likely than 50/ 50. If they can stay hot for a couple more weeks, than winning 63 becomes probable and maybe they can even reach 65 or so wins. Would winning 24 or more games over last year, an over 50% increase in wins, would that be enough for Lipman to consider that the White Sox have moved things forward "quite a bit"? Probably not. That would have moved up the win total significantly...and still lost 100 or more games. They aren't winning 65 games this year. It's all relative. Like I wrote it would be hard not to improve in a 162 game season where the previous season you only won 41 games. I'm happy the kids have showed something...great. But they are as far away from being a competitive, good organization as the Grand Canyon is wide even with said "improvement." I believe real improvement comes the day Ishbia takes over and JR is no longer connected to the franchise. Edited August 4 by Lip Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxrwhite Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 I'd settle for 63 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 39 minutes ago, soxrwhite said: I'd settle for 63 wins. Sir the 63 win thread is on page 2. This is the 81 win thread. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 I'll be there on Wednesday 25th row section 137 behind Sox dugout. Not quite as good as row 2 last year but any special messages anybody would like me to relay to the club? I'm def going to be telling Will he's doing a good job and in general will be pretty nice to all the players. Unlike last year when I was just heckling the s%*# out of Vaughn and Pedro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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