2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

I'm shocked how much people liked seranthony. The idea this is a plus bullpen is not something I saw.

I don't think dominguez is bad, but he's a 7th inning arm in a good pen.

Taylor the only + arm on the staff imo.

he at least had a pedigree even if it wasn't that great. it felt like we made a move when we probably just made a compensation or cope. we're a bad team on paper and now in performance worrying about the hcloser should be the last worry instead of one of five signings. I was even duped into being excited over Austin Hays for a minute. Sure mayber Dukeanthony might be an okay middle reliever on a competing team but why we pretending it fits this team or even puts us over any perceived edge (llets assume 75 wins)

3 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

And they're not an 82 win team regardless of how many betting lines you look up. Betting lines represent the point at which they can get impulsive losers to empty their pockets, thinking they're the smartest people in the world.

The Brewers were missing their top 2 starters and best position player off last years team in this series. Acting like what the Sox just faced is representative of the best team in baseball is ridiculous.

1 minute ago, T R U said:

The pitching is bad, but geez it’s a 7-3 game even a bad bullpen can usually save that one.

The Brewers are good for sure, probably not the best team in the NL though especially missing a key player like Andrew Vaughn.

I’ve seen enough, this is the same team as it’s been. Bad managerial decisions, bad defense, bad in clutch moments.

Only thing I care about now is the kids progression and seeing the prospects come up.

Chourio is out as well and they traded away Freddy Peralta in the offseason. They aren’t the best team in the NL no matter how many times WE says it as he is trying to make excuses for the Sox.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by WhiteSox2023

1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:

Can't do that with more worst rotation in mlb.

Maybe 2005/06 White Sox.

Even then, pitching staff wore down second half of 2006.

winning doesn't matter.....a loss is a loss no matter the score. Let them continue to get shellacked. Maybe the suck will run out of their system.

1 minute ago, WestEddy said:

And they're not an 82 win team regardless of how many betting lines you look up. Betting lines represent the point at which they can get impulsive losers to empty their pockets, thinking they're the smartest people in the world.

Wrong, but I'm not going to waste time with you on market dynamics.

The Brewers were without arguably their second best player and they would have pitched Priester today instead of sproat had he been healthy. This isn't a team at their best. This is just a terrible pitching staff.

7 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

I just feel the start of the downward slope of this franchise started that season. They had one of the worst months (June if I remember right in franchise history) and it all went to hell.

In 2008 they came very close to urinating the division away, needed an extra game to win it. In 2010 they had a lead in August then the bullpen fell apart, in 2012 they had a three game lead with 16 to go. You saw how that turned out as they lost 11 of 16.

I turned 21 in 2008 I remember being wasted at a horse track when the devil rays kicked our ass. I was like well it's all up from here. lawd was i wrong.

27 minutes ago, joejoesox said:

curious how long of a leash this new pitching coach has

I also wonder if Venable has to ask Getz permission to get mad at his players

I actually thought that Katz was pretty good last year with what he had to work with, I was very surprise they canned him.

I’m not sold on Venable going back to last year, he still is on OJT, I would have liked a veteran given the job not named TLR.

3 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

The Brewers were missing their top 2 starters and best position player off last years team in this series. Acting like what the Sox just faced is representative of the best team in baseball is ridiculous.

if we had brooks baldwin the whitesox would have won every game ever by 40 runs

Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Wrong, but I'm not going to waste time with you on market dynamics.

The Brewers were without arguably their second best player and they would have pitched Priester today instead of sproat had he been healthy. This isn't a team at their best. This is just a terrible pitching staff.

Oh, so a 3-0 team is a lot better than they've showed this series? You make such a compelling argument.

Yes, betting lines are set to encourage betting on both sides of the line. They represent the group brain, which is why one should watch for betting on homecoming games, or rivalries. Lots of emotion and sports talk garbage in those decisions.

8 minutes ago, baseball_gal_aly said:

Taylor hasn't even proven that he can get MLB hitters out yet. His stuff kinda plays down. I kinda want him to do well as a setup man before trusting him to close.

Guy has a career 1.48 FiP with 13.14 K's per 9. He's had some terrible batted ball luck but his stuff hardly is a concern.

26 minutes ago, fathom said:

This Brewers roster at this moment isn’t close to being the best in the NL. Sproat was awful and Quero is a star.

Maybe not, but they will be in the running for the NL Central. These guys were relentless.

9 minutes ago, bobbydanks said:

he at least had a pedigree even if it wasn't that great. it felt like we made a move when we probably just made a compensation or cope. we're a bad team on paper and now in performance worrying about the hcloser should be the last worry instead of one of five signings. I was even duped into being excited over Austin Hays for a minute. Sure mayber Dukeanthony might be an okay middle reliever on a competing team but why we pretending it fits this team or even puts us over any perceived edge (llets assume 75 wins)

He literally was in the Toronto pen during the 2025 World Series.

2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Guy has a career 1.48 FiP with 13.14 K's per 9. He's had some terrible batted ball luck but his stuff hardly is a concern.

It isn’t entirely luck. He’s given up a lot of hard contact. I still think he’s going to be awesome, though.

6 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Oh, so a 3-0 team is a lot better than they've showed this series? You make such a compelling argument.

Yes, betting lines are set to encourage betting on both sides of the line. They represent the group brain, which is why one should watch for betting on homecoming games, or rivalries. Lots of emotion and sports talk garbage in those decisions.

Again... wrong, your understanding of betting markets is about as robust as your understanding of what a good baseball team looks like.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by Look at Ray Ray Run

13 minutes ago, T R U said:

The Brewers are good for sure, probably not the best team in the NL though especially missing a key player like Andrew Vaughn.

I’ve seen enough, this is the same team as it’s been. Bad managerial decisions, bad defense, bad in clutch moments.

To be honest, no, the Dodgers are probably the cream of the crop. But the Brewers will play above their heads and be right there at the end.

I think the Sox bullpen will be better. April's going to be brutal. I think I said I could see them winning 13 by 5/1. they play the Nats and Angels at home at the end of the month. But Blue Jays, Orioles, Royals in KC, Rays and D-Backs... they've got their work cut out for them.

https://www.fangraphs.com/standings/playoff-odds/fg/div

Still at 0.9% odds for post season.

Rockies 0%, Nationals 1.5% and Sox get to face them this month.

2 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

To be honest, no, the Dodgers are probably the cream of the crop. But the Brewers will play above their heads and be right there at the end.

I think the Sox bullpen will be better. April's going to be brutal. I think I said I could see them winning 13 by 5/1. they play the Nats and Angels at home at the end of the month. But Blue Jays, Orioles, Royals in KC, Rays and D-Backs... they've got their work cut out for them.

Vegas says 9-13 wins.

3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Again... wrong, your understanding of betting markets is about as robust as your understanding of what a good baseball team looks like.

I have a friend from Detroit who claims the Bulls only won 6 championships because the Pistons, Celtics and Lakers all got old at the same time. He gambled a lot, too. Tell me more about how really intelligent people believe betting market lines to be gospel.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by WestEddy

8 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

He literally was in the Toronto pen during the 2025 World Series.

yeah never trust canadians

actually you're right a career 4 era 35 year old with 40 career saves was definitely the right move for the white sox to make.

2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Vegas says 9-13 wins.

Oh, the betting line validates my own wish casting. They must be right, then. Actually, looking through right now, I count 12. I thought they'd win one in Milwaukee. I'm guessing one each in every series, 2 from the Rays, Nats and Angels.

Their offense woke up today. Maybe Martin or Fedde is the stopper, and they get on the other side of the ledger in Miami.

Well at least Lip can start up his blown saves meter again this year.

5 run lead lost from ahead is quite an accomplishment.

1 minute ago, WestEddy said:

Oh, the betting line validates my own wish casting. They must be right, then. Actually, looking through right now, I count 12. I thought they'd win one in Milwaukee. I'm guessing one each in every series, 2 from the Rays, Nats and Angels.

Their offense woke up today. Maybe Martin or Fedde is the stopper, and they get on the other side of the ledger in Miami.

We shall certainly see if there's any such thing as negative momentum in baseball with that long plane ride to stew over things.

11 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

We shall certainly see if there's any such thing as negative momentum in baseball with that long plane ride to stew over things.

I think I've already seen it with one team so far in this decade

I wonder how many times a team has lead 4 to 0 after 4 batters and lost.