11 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Was looking at some some ZIPS projections, they really don't think much of Gonzo. I think he's probably an average regular in his prime or a weak starter but there certainly like a 1/3 chance he's just a random utility guy, nothing more.

If they liked the swing at 34 more than that, fine. Probably not a deal I'd make given we're one injury away from needing him back up in Chicago, but I can see the reasons they made it.

A once in 50 years draft ( meaning the Sox had the 1:1) and a chance to keep building in a strong draft class with unprecedented draft money for a non-revenue sharing team are damn good reasons. Sox could be contenders when Ishbia takes over and builds a new stadium.

Try to imagine that. A new owner who spends and builds a brand new state of the art stadium surrounded by a baseball village like Atlanta and Sox fans filling it up making all kinds of noise. I envy you guys who will be around for it.

20 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

If I had seen any posts worth a damn I wouldn't have to point out your bitterness and clenched anus.

I'm a terrible stalker. I don't think I had commented on any of your posts for 2 or 3 weeks. Of course you've not had much reason to post because every time you open your keyboard your venom spills out and things have just been going so right for the Sox it leaves you dumbfounded and speechless. Well speechless until you never shut up because getting the last word is your claim to victory . Go ahead be predictable.

This will not be an enemies to lovers arc, no matter how hard you beg.

On 7/12/2026 at 11:04 AM, ron883 said:

Plot twist: not only does Keith Law NOT hate the White Sox anymore, he is actively helping them by publishing puff pieces to boost their prospect's value.

I didn't see that one coming!

There’s got to be less to hate nowadays though

On 7/12/2026 at 5:49 AM, Falstaff said:

I think the Sox got great value for trading Gonzalez for the 34th pick and the bonus pool money . Having the #1 pick and all the money that came with it was the perfect time to restock their minor leagues.

Seems to be another Rorschach test situation. My opinion has always been that the franchise has always needed to be thinking about building through the minors like real baseball teams do. And we were never that. If we wanted to get an extra pick, and money to spend, then that’s awesome. I didn’t necessarily appreciate if we did it just to get that one kid though, but we’re never gonna know the answer to that.

5 hours ago, Chick Mercedes said:

Seems to be another Rorschach test situation. My opinion has always been that the franchise has always needed to be thinking about building through the minors like real baseball teams do. And we were never that. If we wanted to get an extra pick, and money to spend, then that’s awesome. I didn’t necessarily appreciate if we did it just to get that one kid though, but we’re never gonna know the answer to that.

I don't think they did this. They did it to get the extra $3 million. I basically just think they wouldn't have Prosek if they didn't make the trade and he was the best pick after Cholowsky.

5 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

I don't think they did this. They did it to get the extra $3 million. I basically just think they wouldn't have Prosek if they didn't make the trade and he was the best pick after Cholowsky.

That's how I have looked at it. They probably get Thome at 41 so the extra pick likely wasn't him.

11 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

I don't think they did this. They did it to get the extra $3 million. I basically just think they wouldn't have Prosek if they didn't make the trade and he was the best pick after Cholowsky.

This is pretty clearly Prosek for Gonzalez

13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

This is pretty clearly Prosek for Gonzalez

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10 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

A new owner who spends and builds a brand new state of the art stadium surrounded by a baseball village like Atlanta and Sox fans filling it up making all kinds of noise. I envy you guys who will be around for it.

Tall expectations often lead to deep disappointment.

31 minutes ago, tray said:

Tall expectations often lead to deep disappointment.

The last 45 years have taught Sox fans to expect disppointment.

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

The last 45 years have taught Sox fans to expect disppointment.

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13 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Try to imagine that. A new owner who spends and builds a brand new state of the art stadium surrounded by a baseball village like Atlanta and Sox fans filling it up making all kinds of noise

I really hope there are condos so I can basically live at the new stadium.

5 minutes ago, hi8is said:

I really hope there are condos so I can basically live at the new stadium.

There are boatloads of condos around the 78.

23 minutes ago, hi8is said:

I really hope there are condos so I can basically live at the new stadium.

If they build a condo building overlooking the new park it will be my life goal to buy a place there.

3 hours ago, tray said:

Tall expectations often lead to deep disappointment.

It's just my way of thinking and seeing the future. It doesn't disappoint me if it doesn't happen. It's just the road that is forming at the moment and may never happen. No skin off my nose if it doesn't. The alternate future my be just as satisfying.

5 hours ago, tray said:

Tall expectations often lead to deep disappointment.

Confucius? Jack Handey?

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7 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

I don't think they did this. They did it to get the extra $3 million. I basically just think they wouldn't have Prosek if they didn't make the trade and he was the best pick after Cholowsky.

I find the priority of Thome over Prosek interesting even if not. Given all the talk about the FO checking the scouting department. Like, if we drafted Prosek first, oh noes if someone grabbed Thome before we went back on the clock. If scouts valued Thome over Prosek, then whatever.

5 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said:

I find the priority of Thome over Prosek interesting even if not. Given all the talk about the FO checking the scouting department. Like, if we drafted Prosek first, oh noes if someone grabbed Thome before we went back on the clock. If scouts valued Thome over Prosek, then whatever.

It's probably a combination of worry about other teams picking one over the other, plus knowing each players signing demands, and it might have worked better in one order versus the other.

Just saying, if Prosek is their best pick after Roch, that’s just gambling to take Thome 34.

3 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said:

Just saying, if Prosek is their best pick after Roch, that’s just gambling to take Thome 34.

That's how the MLB Draft works though. You can't get caught up in where a player is picked.

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16 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said:

Just saying, if Prosek is their best pick after Roch, that’s just gambling to take Thome 34.

James has done a good job of explaining how this isn't Gonazalez and Eisert for the 34th pick. Its about the totality of the draft class. This gave them more flexibility to add more quality players. It should be looked at as a win for the organization.

15 minutes ago, CBJ03 said:

James has done a good job of explaining how this isn't Gonazalez and Eisert for the 34th pick. Its about the totality of the draft class. This gave them more flexibility to add more quality players. It should be looked at as a win for the organization.

I mean, they pulled it off, combined a nepo pick with commensurate value by compromising with a little bit of gambling on losing Prosek. I agree its a win on many levels.

-The money first of all.

-They got both players they wanted

-The organization recouped value for Gonzalez

We could quibble about the wisdom of taking Thome over pitching, and I do. But obviously they have gotten high marks for the draft

50 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

That's how the MLB Draft works though. You cant get caught up in where a player is picked.

As long as you get him at the end of the day. And they did. And they took a risk, for a player for reasons I am not a fan of fwiw. On top of a much bigger need. That’s all. I keep hearing that they were worried about losing Thome to another team instead of focusing on Prosek. Interesting.

5 hours ago, DoUEvenShift said:

If they build a condo building overlooking the new park it will be my life goal to buy a place there.

Exactly

I am surprised by the angst about this. I was and proponent of Gonzales in May on and he hasn't disappointed me. And of course the idea to trade him would come up and the near universal sentiment was that a couple of good months in Charlotte didn't create trade value. In Chicago, he wasn't overmatched, but he didn't wow either; and he never played middle infield. So how much trade value did he really build up?
And then the reality is that he just wasn't on Getz' A-team (sending him back down was the final statement on that). Getz may be wrong about that, and perhaps other teams saw him more favorably, and, thus might have paid more. But I could also see scenarios where they let him linger in AAA for a while, and whatever value there is wastes away.
I'll save my angst for when we package young players for an average starter....

Edited 22 hours ago22 hr by GreenSox