From CBS sports: "Woods received a promotion to Triple-A in June after turning in a 3.16 ERA and 1.17 WHIP through 25.2 innings at Double-A Altoona, but he has surrendered 10 runs in just 11.2 frames since moving up a level. The 24-year-old southpaw could remain at Triple-A upon joining his new organization, but his performance will likely need to improve before he draws consideration for a call-up to the bigs."

So yea, Woods looks like he is heading to the Minors. McDougal, Sandelin or a few other guys could get promoted. Should know before game time.

Edited 17 hours ago17 hr by tray

This trade stinks.

Seems like the Sox value building themselves up more for the future instead of going for it this year. Probably not the worst strategy.

7 hours ago, South Side Fireworks Man said:

Gonzo was the 15th pick in the 2023 draft.

Until 2 or 3 months ago, he was a big time bust. Still not so sure, but this is about Thomes kid.

5 hours ago, Lukakke Appling said:

Definitely think this takes Lackey out of the mix for 1:1

Rorschach test

7 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Jake burger has had a much better career than the avg 30-35th pick.

The problem is people fall in love with draft picks too much. The argument that Gonzalez hasn't done anything until this year is weak. Not all players develop at the same rate. How long did it take Jon Garland before he broke out?

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1 hour ago, Dick Allen said:

Until 2 or 3 months ago, he was a big time bust. Still not so sure, but this is about Thomes kid.

Why is this continually said?

Who cares what a prospect who has reinvented his swing and approach looked like before he did those things?

I have no idea why people are treating the 34th pick in the draft like it's some huge asset.

This team should have been trying to improve the roster today, not acquire another lotto ticket. And for thomes kid maybe? Sheesh, what a disaster.

Can't wait to draft andrew dahlquist 2.0!

7 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Why is this continually said?

Who cares what a prospect who has reinvented his swing and approach looked like before he did those things?

I have no idea why people are treating the 34th pick in the draft like it's some huge asset.

This team should have been trying to improve the roster today, not acquire another lotto ticket. And for thomes kid maybe? Sheesh, what a disaster.

Can't wait to draft andrew dahlquist 2.0!

That asset just netted your precious Jacob Gonzalez, must be pretty valuable.

4 minutes ago, bmags said:

That asset just netted your precious Jacob Gonzalez, must be pretty valuable.

You said you wanted them to shove to compete this year, and now you're all in on them trading one of their only assets for a lotto ticket... meaning they have traded one of the only things they had to improve the MLb or near-mlb level pitching for a mediocre pick.

Make it make sense.

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6 hours ago, WestEddy said:

This would imply jacob gonzalez is a 35 FV player. No one has him rated as that today.

This was s%*# process again from a team who has no commitment to winning.

Someone else said take a high school arm. Lol. Might as well throw a dart at a dart board a mile away and hope to hit a bullseye.

That said, them doing this so they can go acquire a nepo-kid in Thome, is classic dysfunctional white sox. Doesn't matter who is in charge with this org. I dont get the Thome love at all.

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4 hours ago, tray said:

Massive power bats typically lack the OBP that Antonacci has. Most power hitters (excluding premier players like Buxton) would probably not be better than Sam in LF.

Having both Chase and Antonacci on the field and in the line-up has been a revelation this season - absolute gamers, clutch hitters and table setters. They are part of a great line-up that personally, I would not mess with. If you want more RH thump in the line-up, OK, I do as well, but maybe another Grichiuk type as a platoon DH/ pinch hitter.

Chase clutch? It's strange you laughing at so many posts then post that. Chase has been cooling off big time lately.

2 minutes ago, white sox 80 said:

Chase clutch? It's strange you laughing at so many posts then post that. Chase has been cooling off big time lately.

A lot of hitters cooled off as you say against good pitching...like BoSox. And over time, yes, Chase has been a clutch hitter...but you have to watch the games to get that.

11 posts ?

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10 minutes ago, tray said:

A lot of hitters cooled off as you say against good pitching...like BoSox. And over time, yes, Chase has been a clutch hitter...but you have to watch the games to get that.

11 posts ?

I do watch the games. Interesting you know exactly what I do or don't do. Chase is a ok player. I doubt he's a long term player in the sox lineup. Also I had a previous account. I created a new one because I couldn't log back in for some reason. What does my post count matter on this topic?

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7 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

But why did we have to trade him now? Most teams are 100% focused on the draft and not looking to buy for or sell from their major league roster. Obviously the answer is they wanted the Comp A pick and this was the price to get it. That being said, we could have traded Jacob at the deadline or in the offseason and still dealt with the roster crunch then. And conceptually, there would have likely been a bigger market at those times.

Two reasons that I can think of:

1. We REALLY want that extra money for this draft. Even if it just means you are replacing a more advanced prospect with a less advanced prospect, it gives them more flexibility today in the draft. Even if the guy they take at 34 never pans out, it could give more money to get someone at 41 who they otherwise wouldn’t have drafted.

2. They are selling high on him. Maybe they aren’t sold on him and are worried the second half of this year will reduce his value. I love the idea of selling high if you are doing it with a guy who will never have a spot on the major league team.

The Sox have the #1 pick and a boat load of money with the bonus pool. I wonder if this scenario will ever happen again under the present system. Now is the time to push your chips in on getting additional draft capital. Something really good is happening, "Sit back. Relax and Strap it down. "

52 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

This would imply jacob gonzalez is a 35 FV player. No one has him rated as that today.

This was s%*# process again from a team who has no commitment to winning.

Someone else said take a high school arm. Lol. Might as well throw a dart at a dart board a mile away and hope to hit a bullseye.

That said, them doing this so they can go acquire a nepo-kid in Thome, is classic dysfunctional white sox. Doesn't matter who is in charge with this org. I dont get the Thome love at all.

Feel better about him than ever now!

If this move is made for Thome its a disaster. If its to overpay 1-1 its bad.

My hope with their recently developed ability with MiLB hitting is they can develop a pipeline. Also once negotiating began things opened up that will allow the pick to be worth it as dollars became clear. Is Roch going underslot....is there a MLB contract in the talk with him already?? I'm not up on the MLB draft enough to know the moving pieces.

Choosing Acuna over Gonzalez mystified me.

5 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Feel better about him than ever now!

Jaja. Yeah, I was so wrong about Antonacci and Colson when so many were out on them!

Meanwhile you thought Colson wouldn't be helpful as recently as March of 2025. Ouch!

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3 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said:

If this move is made for Thome its a disaster. If its to overpay 1-1 its bad.

My hope with their recently developed ability with MiLB hitting is they can develop a pipeline. Also once negotiating began things opened up that will allow the pick to be worth it as dollars became clear. Is Roch going underslot....is there a MLB contract in the talk with him already?? I'm not up on the MLB draft enough to know the moving pieces.

Choosing Acuna over Gonzalez mystified me.

Gonzalez was blocked at SS, 1st, and DH. If he batted right-handed it could have been a different story

7 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

But why did we have to trade him now? Most teams are 100% focused on the draft and not looking to buy for or sell from their major league roster. Obviously the answer is they wanted the Comp A pick and this was the price to get it. That being said, we could have traded Jacob at the deadline or in the offseason and still dealt with the roster crunch then. And conceptually, there would have likely been a bigger market at those times.

There are multiple factors here. I don't expect everyone to like it and I definitely understand the consternation. I think it's important to realize that this front office didn't draft Jacob Gonzalez and he wasn't likely part of their future plans as another LHH infielder despite the breakout. The White Sox just treated him as found money essentially. For him, they create two needed 40-man spots and add essentially $3 million to their pool. If they take a prep guy at 34 at near slot, it's another highly regarded prospect added to the system but it also increases their pool by $1 million with the overage. They went from $18.5 million to $21.5 million. It allows two extra prep swings essentially. This doesn't mean that the White Sox won't be buying. They owe it to the club to buy. This was just an opportunity to sell high on a guy that wasn't in their plans.

17 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Jaja. Yeah, I was so wrong about Antonacci and Colson when so many were out on them!

Meanwhile you thought Colson wouldn't be helpful as recently as March of 2025. Ouch!

Do you think Lebron is still in play at number 1?

Also #34 pick add another $1 million on the 5% overage.

Edited 13 hours ago13 hr by PolishPrince34

They throw a lot of names around for the draft. They also brought up the draft pool money which means a lot but barely mentioned in the thread until Caulfield mentioned the exact amount.

The 2 open 40 man spots mean a lot too since they will add a pitcher now and maybe later. There will be more churn.

8 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

There are multiple factors here. I don't expect everyone to like it and I definitely understand the consternation. I think it's important to realize that this front office didn't draft Jacob Gonzalez and he wasn't likely part of their future plans as another LHH infielder despite the breakout. The White Sox just treated him as found money essentially. For him, they create two needed 40-man spots and add essentially $3 million to their pool. If they take a prep guy at 34 at near slot, it's another highly regarded prospect added to the system but it also increases their pool by $1 million with the overage. They went from $18.5 million to $21.5 million. It allows two extra prep swings essentially. This doesn't mean that the White Sox won't be buying. They owe it to the club to buy. This was just an opportunity to sell high on a guy that wasn't in their plans.

He wasn’t part of anyone’s future plans heading into this year. And became an after thought last year.

Having said that, still would have preferred to use him in a trade for a SP.

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15 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Jaja. Yeah, I was so wrong about Antonacci and Colson when so many were out on them!

Meanwhile you thought Colson wouldn't be helpful as recently as March of 2025. Ouch!

You're passionate and well informed, that's a good thing. But you're overrating your own "scouting" and it's clouding your judgment.

Congrats you were high on Colson and Sam, big whoop. You're so hell bent on Lackey that you ridiculously have Roch and Emerson ranked like 6th and 7th in this class.

I don't think this trade is a slam dunk either, I would have liked a little more return. But the Sox clearly have a plan today and they are trying to maximize it. Willing to give Shirley and Getz he benefit of the doubt and let it play out instead of shitting all over them like a know-it-all is probably healthier behavior,