10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Speculation of a split between scouting (Shirleys camp) who wanted Emerson and the higher ups who wanted Roch.

it's just that though, no one has reported Shirley wanted Emerson. at least I havent seen that

12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Speculation of a split between scouting (Shirleys camp) who wanted Emerson and the higher ups who wanted Roch.

I thought Shirley was a huge Roch guy?

16 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

I thought Shirley was a huge Roch guy?

https://www.reddit.com/r/whitesox/comments/1u7nx2j/jim_callis_says_white_sox_scouting_department/

espn.com

"Shirley made a case for all three players, citing how much Emerson closed the gap on Cholowsky during his senior year of high school while also acknowledging Cholowsky "held serve" during his junior year of college, hitting .320 with 21 home runs. Meanwhile, Lackey is a "supreme catcher who could define the position," according to Shirley.

"It's not about what they are today," he said. "It's about what they're going to be two to three years from now when they show up here at the major league level."

Doesn't seem like it's because he didn't take your pet draft pick

Good riddance

2 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

Doesn't seem like it's because he didn't take your pet draft pick

This was not the club’s first probe into Shirley’s behavior. He had been the subject of at least one past internal investigation, multiple sources with direct knowledge told The Athletic.

In 2022, Major League Baseball received an anonymous tip from a White former team employee who had recently left the club regarding Shirley’s behavior toward scouts from underrepresented groups. That tip was passed on to the White Sox. That investigation did not find any bias in Shirley’s hiring practices or behavior toward people of diverse backgrounds, multiple sources with direct knowledge said. As such, Shirley did not receive any disciplinary action.

...

The Sox’s latest investigation into Shirley also included allegations of vulgar language about females and their bodies, multiple sources said.

Edited Sunday at 01:57 AM3 days by Sleepy Harold

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7588387/2026/09/12/mike-shirley-white-sox-scouting-director-resigns-verbal-harassment-allegations/?unlocked_article_code=1.A1E.AAYL.2LThuRcSOApD&source=user_shared_article&smid=ta-ios-share

Well, now we know why Shirley wanted K.Griffin/Hagen and Emerson over Cholowsky.

All Southern players...joking, I hope

Edited Sunday at 02:17 AM3 days by caulfield12

Yeah, the abrupt exit felt like it could be something like this. I wonder if Getz has his guy in mind, or they just ratchet everyone up a notch.

1 minute ago, WestEddy said:

Yeah, the abrupt exit felt like it could be something like this. I wonder if Getz has his guy in mind, or they just ratchet everyone up a notch.

It absolutely can't be Nick Hostetler.

Go outside the org

CLE MIL TB

So he's been investigated since 2022? Yeah, that's not better. JFC. I'd rather just have him being salty. WTF is wrong with this organization?

15 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7588387/2026/09/12/mike-shirley-white-sox-scouting-director-resigns-verbal-harassment-allegations/?unlocked_article_code=1.A1E.AAYL.2LThuRcSOApD&source=user_shared_article&smid=ta-ios-share

Bravo White Sox. Bravo.

7 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

It absolutely can't be Nick Hostetler.

Go outside the org

CLE MIL TB

Nobody's suggesting Hostetler. Garrett Guest is the Asst. Director.

Don’t think an organization could have a worse two months

So if the Sox had fired him, would they have had to pay that extension? I'm sure they have performance/accountability clauses in those contracts right lol "Don't make the org look like Omar Vizquel still works here"

Nobody has ever heard of him

35 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

It absolutely can't be Nick Hostetler.

Go outside the org

CLE MIL TB

literally, just pay someone to turn this ship around

1 minute ago, joejoesox said:

So if the Sox had fired him, would they have had to pay that extension? I'm sure they have performance/accountability clauses in those contracts right lol "Don't make the org look like Omar Vizquel still works here"

Surely will be a legal battle.

The previous awareness of issues is obviously relevant ... we don't know if his contract was amended to reflect that.

good job firing him, f*** him, if you're a repeated POS, get fucked.

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Edited Sunday at 03:03 AM3 days by caulfield12

Wow

18 minutes ago, joejoesox said:

So if the Sox had fired him, would they have had to pay that extension? I'm sure they have performance/accountability clauses in those contracts right lol "Don't make the org look like Omar Vizquel still works here"

Not for cause.

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

So he's been investigated since 2022? Yeah, that's not better. JFC. I'd rather just have him being salty. WTF is wrong with this organization?

Not a good look for the organization again. Dave Wilder v 2.0.

1 minute ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Not a good look for the organization again. Dave Wilder v 2.0.

Or the opposite, since he openly ran a gay bar/Club Burn in Phoenix that was tolerated by KW...and then there was the trainer who claimed he was fired by Hahn due to sexual orientation, but pretty sure he lost that suit.

We checked off racist/sexist against women already with Shirley...not sure about the trinity of sexual preference/s, but generally goes along with the other two.

(Omar Vizquel was the most recent egregious example of sexual discrimination/bullying behavior...)

Also makes you wonder if GEtz Thome Hostetler Barfield Watson Jin Wong did anything to stop it...or, heck, Hahn/KW too.

Edited Sunday at 03:35 AM3 days by caulfield12