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Mike Shirley resigns

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  • Reached out to an individual who has been around baseball for a long time and knows people and the scouting departments of a lot of teams. Just wanted to know if they could shed any light on this. Th

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19 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Possibly selecting Vahn Lackey was always a smoke screen...

It looks like Jordan Sprinkle (4, 2022) was the only African-American player taken in the top 10 rounds during Shirley's tenure as head of amateur scouting.

Edited by WestEddy

Matt Thompson (2019 #2 - Hostetler) is probably the highest draft choice of an African American since Tim A. I realize that the Latin American market is separate, but that has been a Sox clown show for far too long. It's hard to believe that race would have anything to do with player acquisition...although baseball evaluation is the least reliable anyway.
But from a reputation standpoint, that this has apparently been going on this long is the worst thing.

Shirley's been here through 7 drafts...time for a change anyway.

Edited by GreenSox

Given the concerns about abuse, I must note the word "opine" has been suffering serious abuse in this thread while its homophone "pine" suffers from neglect.

The thought about the Whiteness of the Sox draft picks crossed my mind but I think it will be hard to look at the Sox draftees and get too terribly much out of it. About 80% of all players drafted in the top 5 rounds (by all teams) in recent years are non-Hispanic Whites, per this study: https://sabr.org/journal/article/examining-dusty-bakers-hope-is-help-on-the-way/

Sox took an obviously Hispanic player in the first round just a few years ago in the form of Jacob Gonzalez. Less obvious (from the name) is Billy Carlson, whose mother is Mexican. I believe Roch Cholowsky's mother is Indian-American. So IDK, it's possible he has some particular biases that affected his player evaluation, but in today's MLB you're going to see a lot of White guys among any team's draftees. It's fair to raise the question given the other things he's accused of. But there are other people involved in the draft decisions too.

1 hour ago, Jake said:

Given the concerns about abuse, I must note the word "opine" has been suffering serious abuse in this thread while its homophone "pine" suffers from neglect.

The thought about the Whiteness of the Sox draft picks crossed my mind but I think it will be hard to look at the Sox draftees and get too terribly much out of it. About 80% of all players drafted in the top 5 rounds (by all teams) in recent years are non-Hispanic Whites, per this study: https://sabr.org/journal/article/examining-dusty-bakers-hope-is-help-on-the-way/

Sox took an obviously Hispanic player in the first round just a few years ago in the form of Jacob Gonzalez. Less obvious (from the name) is Billy Carlson, whose mother is Mexican. I believe Roch Cholowsky's mother is Indian-American. So IDK, it's possible he has some particular biases that affected his player evaluation, but in today's MLB you're going to see a lot of White guys among any team's draftees. It's fair to raise the question given the other things he's accused of. But there are other people involved in the draft decisions too.

One also wonders how involved Barfield and Carlos Rodriguez are...

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