49 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Seiya Suzuki seems like a perfect fit to me. I also think a Colson trade to the Mariners for someone like Kirby makes a lot of sense for both sides. I feel like an infielder somewhere will be on the block for a starter.

We assume it's good for both sides. We think the other side is far more gullible.

We use Jerry's yardstick of economics when it comes to starting pitchers. It's an over inflated market.

I'm also tired of the constant of players getting better leaving the Sox. That is the deeper problem in the organization.

Trading guys who are not good enough to start ends up searching the waiver wire because you also lost a bench player.

On 10/11/2026 at 10:37 AM, fathom said:

There’s a very good chance IMO they just run it back next year with virtually the same position players. I could see them signing Grichuk to a 1-year deal and making Romo the back-up catcher. Would everyone be ok with this? You all know I believe one of the Montgomerys needs to go.

I would try to replace both Montgomerys. They need 2 good bats and decent defenders at RF, and LF, move Antonacci to DH, get a competent SS to fill in until Rock comes up, get two legit top of rotation starters and a legit closer. Then they might be a contender.

Go into next season with this current roster and they'll be lucky to win 79 games.

23 minutes ago, South Side Fireworks Man said:

I would try to replace both Montgomerys. They need 2 good bats and decent defenders at RF, and LF, move Antonacci to DH, get a competent SS to fill in until Rock comes up, get two legit top of rotation starters and a legit closer. Then they might be a contender.

Go into next season with this current roster and they'll be lucky to win 79 games.

Just releasing Benintendi?

HaSeong Kim would be fine for penis on the dollar for 2-3 months.

Might even start to hit again like about three seasons ago.

At this point, it will be under a $5 million deal like N.Lopez or Rojas.

Edited Monday at 08:09 PM1 day by caulfield12

47 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Just releasing Benintendi?

HaSeong Kim would be fine for penis on the dollar for 2-3 months.

Might even start to hit again like about three seasons ago.

At this point, it will be under a $5 million deal like N.Lopez or Rojas.

“For penis on the dollar”?

Get your mind out of the gutter, @caulfield12! You can’t buy MLB players the same way you buy ladyboys in China!

33 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

“For penis on the dollar”?

Get your mind out of the gutter, @caulfield12! You can’t buy MLB players the same way you buy ladyboys in China!

Think you're a bit off there.

China Korea Japan uber conservative

Thailand Philippines Indonesia

2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Think you're a bit off there.

China Korea Japan uber conservative

Thailand Philippines Indonesia

I was pretty sure you would know the best spots.

6 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I was pretty sure you would know the best spots.

You and West Eddy seemed to be obsessed with sex these days.

Too many Sydney Sweeney ads?

Edited Monday at 09:45 PM1 day by caulfield12

Ant man kinda seems like the odd man out and I’d consider trying to sell high on him. He’s just not any good in the outfield. Brooks and Bonemer are more exciting to me as left fielders. I hope Benny gets cut.

19 minutes ago, nrockway said:

Ant man kinda seems like the odd man out and I’d consider trying to sell high on him. He’s just not any good in the outfield. Brooks and Bonemer are more exciting to me as left fielders. I hope Benny gets cut.

Baldwin is miles away from having the same impact as Antonacci.

Another hitter that strikes out way too much and has similar defensive shortcomings.

He's fine off the bench though.

Really comes down to Doyle Acuna Baldwin (and back up ability at SS vs Acuna).

Probably want him to play everyday for 2-3 months at Charlotte to retain his offensive rhythm.

Edited Monday at 10:51 PM1 day by caulfield12

Let's not get too high on Bonemer just yet. A .260 hitter in AA doesn't project to the majors very well. Colson lesson learned. We don't need another .200-ish unproductive bat. If he can get to upper .200's in Charlotte and maintain his slug then he'll be ready for the show.

12 minutes ago, Rounding_Third said:

Let's not get too high on Bonemer just yet. A .260 hitter in AA doesn't project to the majors very well. Colson lesson learned. We don't need another .200-ish unproductive bat. If he can get to upper .200's in Charlotte and maintain his slug then he'll be ready for the show.

Charlotte throws off all the numbers.

See Gonzalez, Jacob.

Not about a specific average with Bonemer, but the quality of at bats/contact.

Even 24-27 homers likely to be much more impactful than Braden's 2025.

Defense still a work in progress.

5 hours ago, Quin said:

If he gets more OF reps, I can see Braden on the hot seat.

I pray I don't ever have to see Acuna or Romo ever take another at-bat again.

Braden is going nowhere. He'll get every chance to succeed as he should. Hes young and just scratching the surface.

59 minutes ago, nrockway said:

Ant man kinda seems like the odd man out and I’d consider trying to sell high on him. He’s just not any good in the outfield. Brooks and Bonemer are more exciting to me as left fielders. I hope Benny gets cut.

Positionally he is kind of a floater, but i do not get rid of him at any cost. I find him a spot and I let him lead off every game. Too much of a spark plug, and with all of the low average, strikeout hitters we have, I want someone who finds his way on base at all cost.

BM is a minor leaguer rushed too soon. He can spend a few years with the C Ballers and not be missed.

Guys that I know I want around:

Sam

Chase

Miguel

Teel

Guys that will be around:

Mune

Braden

Guys that I think should be around:

Peters

Guy that will be around at some point:

Bonemer

Not a lot of spots left.

Edited 23 hours ago23 hr by Bonemer, I Hardly Know Her

IF defense is key and I don't see any changes there given every player is solid starter to star level and young and cheap: Vargas, Colson (who the f*** is Colston? He plays TE not SS), Chase, Mune.

C: Teel, Quero. Quero has earned the backup role imo. He'll be fine as a cheap 35/45 type. Teel is gonna catch 120+ next year imo. He is just hungry and the injuries were fluke things from WBC.

OF: Peters, Sam, Braden, Doyle. Just eat the Beni salary. See what Grich wants. Baldwin will factor in I'd imagine. It's interesting, he had the patch repair (which is better for position players) so he should have been full go for a few months now, at least swinging. He's still got a bit of shine imo. He's more impressive physically in person that you'd think.

Utility guys will shake out, no real use projecting. I don't think they are particularly tied to Acuna, to their credit.

The obvious place to trade would be corner. You could probably package Braden and Beni and ____ for something. I'm not saying you do it, but it wouldn't be awful on paper. Ant is same. I like Ant more than Braden, but both have flaws. Both are also young and talented enough that trading them could come back to bite us. I would only do it for an obvious SP upgrade with some control. Someone threw out a trade for Kirby from Seattle. I could see that.

Bonemer will have to force the issue. Same with Roch. We'll see if anybody else does. It does seem like they think Bonemer might be a CF.

This team will be projected like 81-81 next year without any spending, pretty good spot to be in. Too bad we have to pay Castillo but you never know. Maybe he can surprise.

2 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

IF defense is key and I don't see any changes there given every player is solid starter to star level and young and cheap: Vargas, Colson (who the f*** is Colston? He plays TE not SS), Chase, Mune.

C: Teel, Quero. Quero has earned the backup role imo. He'll be fine as a cheap 35/45 type. Teel is gonna catch 120+ next year imo. He is just hungry and the injuries were fluke things from WBC.

OF: Peters, Sam, Braden, Doyle. Just eat the Beni salary. See what Grich wants. Baldwin will factor in I'd imagine. It's interesting, he had the patch repair (which is better for position players) so he should have been full go for a few months now, at least swinging. He's still got a bit of shine imo. He's more impressive physically in person that you'd think.

Utility guys will shake out, no real use projecting. I don't think they are particularly tied to Acuna, to their credit.

The obvious place to trade would be corner. You could probably package Braden and Beni and ____ for something. I'm not saying you do it, but it wouldn't be awful on paper. Ant is same. I like Ant more than Braden, but both have flaws. Both are also young and talented enough that trading them could come back to bite us. I would only do it for an obvious SP upgrade with some control. Someone threw out a trade for Kirby from Seattle. I could see that.

Bonemer will have to force the issue. Same with Roch. We'll see if anybody else does. It does seem like they think Bonemer might be a CF.

This team will be projected like 81-81 next year without any spending, pretty good spot to be in. Too bad we have to pay Castillo but you never know. Maybe he can surprise.

Packaging Braden with Benintendi is killing prospect capital again to save a few million...ugh.

Just don't see the logic of selling so low on a prospect at that age.

Better to sell Meidroth at a high and move Antonacci to second, but Getz would never do that.

Having watched Braden in milb CF, and now Bonemer, feels like 75%+ or higher likelihood that Caleb ends up on a corner as well.

44 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

IF defense is key and I don't see any changes there given every player is solid starter to star level and young and cheap: Vargas, Colson (who the f*** is Colston? He plays TE not SS), Chase, Mune.

C: Teel, Quero. Quero has earned the backup role imo. He'll be fine as a cheap 35/45 type. Teel is gonna catch 120+ next year imo. He is just hungry and the injuries were fluke things from WBC.

OF: Peters, Sam, Braden, Doyle. Just eat the Beni salary. See what Grich wants. Baldwin will factor in I'd imagine. It's interesting, he had the patch repair (which is better for position players) so he should have been full go for a few months now, at least swinging. He's still got a bit of shine imo. He's more impressive physically in person that you'd think.

Utility guys will shake out, no real use projecting. I don't think they are particularly tied to Acuna, to their credit.

The obvious place to trade would be corner. You could probably package Braden and Beni and ____ for something. I'm not saying you do it, but it wouldn't be awful on paper. Ant is same. I like Ant more than Braden, but both have flaws. Both are also young and talented enough that trading them could come back to bite us. I would only do it for an obvious SP upgrade with some control. Someone threw out a trade for Kirby from Seattle. I could see that.

Bonemer will have to force the issue. Same with Roch. We'll see if anybody else does. It does seem like they think Bonemer might be a CF.

This team will be projected like 81-81 next year without any spending, pretty good spot to be in. Too bad we have to pay Castillo but you never know. Maybe he can surprise.

In 2018, James Shields actually pitched over 200 innings. We at least need some length from Castillo as a starter to at least help the bullpen a bit.

10 minutes ago, wegner said:

In 2018, James Shields actually pitched over 200 innings. We at least need some length from Castillo as a starter to at least help the bullpen a bit.

Yea my hope is he just gives us like 110 innings of slightly below avg sp.

1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Yea my hope is he just gives us like 110 innings of slightly below avg sp.

Good luck with that idea.

Let's just say the track record not just in his disastrous time with the Sox but even before that isn't very good.

If he is going to get hammered basically every time out, force a bigger load on the bullpen and make it almost impossible to win the game, the innings pitched factor doesn't matter.

Beni had a tough time. He gone. No one is going to trade for him either.

7 minutes ago, pcintelligence said:

Beni had a tough time. He gone. No one is going to trade for him either.

$14.5 million for a -0.1 fWAR. He’s going nowhere.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by WhiteSox2023

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20 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Good luck with that idea.

Let's just say the track record not just in his disastrous time with the Sox but even before that isn't very good.

If he is going to get hammered basically every time out, force a bigger load on the bullpen and make it almost impossible to win the game, the innings pitched factor doesn't matter.

My guess is you weren't a fan of the Szmarzjia special? Give up 5 or 6 early but still go 6 innings or at least that's how I remember him. And I am sure I misspelled his name but I don't care.

This is one of the very few years in WS baseball that they could just stand pat and improve. @southsider2k5 brought up an excellent point about salaries potentially falling with the upcoming labor deal. Perhaps teams may not be spending like they have in the past. Hopefully, that brings some players into the market the Sox always shop at.