1 hour ago, Harry Chappas said:

If the cubs are having liquidity problems. The investment in Wrigleyville is not paying off and the debt, not cub debt, is crippling them. Odd write up by someone that seems to know something to state that.

Cubs owners borrow more than $65 million on Wrigley rooftops

2017年6月30日 — The Ricketts family's new loan comes amid its $850 million Wrigley Field renovation and development that is changing the look of the...

"Independent estimates place the Cubs' combined baseball and Wrigleyville district operations at generating annual revenues well north of $600 million, with net operating income often in the range of $70 to $100 million depending on attendance, media carriage fees, postseason performance, and the performance of ancillary assets like Hotel Zachary, Gallagher Way events, and the DraftKings Sportsbook."

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The Chicago Cubs' Business Model: Team Revenues, Wrigleyv...

A clear look at the Chicago Cubs as a business. Team revenues and media rights, the Ricketts family's Wrigleyville holdings, and the capital investments that created a baseball-centered district of al

So you've basically got all the borrowing, $1 billion for ballpark renovations beginning nearly a decade ago...now this ongoing dispute with rooftops and then the Ricketts/Wrigleyville debt/developments to all consider.

Edited 21 hours ago21 hr by caulfield12

Woof that guy stinks! Pass.

MLB.com

https://www.mlb.com › news › teruaki-sato...

20小时前 — The Yankees, Mets, Dodgers, Phillies, Giants and Padres are among the teams believed to have interest in Sato, which bodes well for the 27-year-old.

1 hour ago, Bad Hombre said:

Woof that guy stinks! Pass.

Would be Sox #2 starter, at worst, a 3.

Edited 15 hours ago15 hr by caulfield12

24 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Would be Sox #2 starter, at worst, a 3.

Huh? He hasn’t been good for years and he rarely stays healthy. He’s more of a #4 or #5 starter. This would be a less expensive flier signing and likely right up the Sox usual alley, so sadly it wouldn’t be a surprise.

Edited 14 hours ago14 hr by WhiteSox2023

7 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Would be Sox #2 starter, at worst, a 3.

Yeah he seems more like a depth, back end guy. We need stability and innings and he has historically provided neither.

4 minutes ago, Whisox05 said:

If anyone had delusions of grandeur about the Sox spending big on higher tier free agents this offseason because their payroll is so low and they have so much money to spend, just look at the three names that they have been rumored to be interested in thus far. Nothing has changed.

Edited 6 hours ago6 hr by WhiteSox2023

46 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

If anyone had delusions of grandeur about the Sox spending big on higher tier free agents this offseason because their payroll is so low and they have so much money to spend, just look at the three names that they have been rumored to be interested in thus far. Nothing has changed.

Your need to jump to the most negative possible outcome in every single thread based on a couple of random Twitter rumors is truly something. Why not let things play out a bit before declaring we aren’t going to do s%*# this offseason?

16 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Your need to jump to the most negative possible outcome in every single thread based on a couple of random Twitter rumors is truly something. Why not let things play out a bit before declaring we aren’t going to do s%*# this offseason?

I was going to say. He extrapolated alot from that one tweet.

33 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Your need to jump to the most negative possible outcome in every single thread based on a couple of random Twitter rumors is truly something. Why not let things play out a bit before declaring we aren’t going to do s%*# this offseason?

Because we see this same act time and time again under Jerry and his budget. You spent numerous posts saying that the Sox needed to acquire two starters at the previous trade deadline. They did the bare minimum as usual and acquired an aging Castillo and we watched as they could barely field a rotation into the postseason. How is it being negative when history has proven it so?

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by WhiteSox2023

17 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Because we see this same act time and time again under Jerry and his budget. You spent numerous posts saying that the Sox needed to acquire two starters at the previous trade deadline. They did the bare minimum as usual and acquired an aging Castillo and we watched as they could barely field a rotation into the postseason. How is it being negative when history has proven it so?

So here's the thing. It's clear right now they have a wide nest cast on starting pitchers. Settle down.

Maybe it's just me getting older. But I don't react and attempt to jump off the bridge like others I'm seeing on here especially to the May interest to every rumor. Christ in the past 3 days it seems like we've heard them interesting in 20 starting pitchers.

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by Baron

26 minutes ago, Baron said:

So here's the thing. It's clear right now they have a wide nest cast on starting pitchers. Settle down.

Maybe it's just me getting older. But I don't react and attempt to jump off the bridge like others I'm seeing on here especially to the May interest to every rumor. Christ in the past 3 days it seems like we've heard them interesting in 20 starting pitchers.

Yeah its easy to link them virtually to every SP available (top of rotation guys, back end guys, etc) considering that is our biggest need

27 minutes ago, Baron said:

So here's the thing. It's clear right now they have a wide nest cast on starting pitchers. Settle down.

Maybe it's just me getting older. But I don't react and attempt to jump off the bridge like others I'm seeing on here especially to the May interest to every rumor. Christ in the past 3 days it seems like we've heard them interesting in 20 starting pitchers.

And it’s in a higher price range than usual it seems

5 minutes ago, fathom said:

And it’s in a higher price range than usual it seems

Yep and the rumor is they want atleast 2 pitchers. Thought I saw a report one is on the high end 1-2 and a backend starter. So the names we're hearing now make sense.

15 minutes ago, Baron said:

Yep and the rumor is they want atleast 2 pitchers. Thought I saw a report one is on the high end 1-2 and a backend starter. So the names we're hearing now make sense.

Yeah I'd feel more confident if the rotation looked like this:

1. Burke

2. Better FA signing

3. Martin

4. Taylor

5. Back-end FA signing

Castillo and Kay to bullpen as depth

Schultz and Sandlin (if not in the pen on the 2026 Taylor plan) in Charlotte as depth

It kinda feels like they've already added the 5th starter for 2027 at the 2026 trade deadline though. Because if not, that's an expensive long-reliever. Bad fit. Bad bad overpaid fit.

Edited 4 hours ago4 hr by Bob Sacamano

1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Because we see this same act time and time again under Jerry and his budget. You spent numerous posts saying that the Sox needed to acquire two starters at the previous trade deadline. They did the bare minimum as usual and acquired an aging Castillo and we watched as they could barely field a rotation into the postseason. How is it being negative when history has proven it so?

That had nothing to do with Jerry though and everything to do with Getz.

And when is the last time we made the playoffs coming off a bottom 5 payroll? There isn’t really any history here to support what we will or won’t do. The only certain is we won’t sign Skubal. Anything beyond that is in the realm of possible.

2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

That had nothing to do with Jerry though and everything to do with Getz.

And when is the last time we made the playoffs coming off a bottom 5 payroll? There isn’t really any history here to support what we will or won’t do. The only certain is we won’t sign Skubal. Anything beyond that is in the realm of possible.

Huh? So Getz is refusing to spend money even though he can? I’m not buying that. There’s a reason Getz traded for Castillo — because he thought he still had ace potential and knew he can’t afford one in free agency.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by WhiteSox2023

11 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Huh? So Getz is refusing to spend money even though he can? I’m not buying that. There’s a reason Getz traded for Castillo — because he thought he still had ace potential and knows he can’t afford one in free agency.

May want to check Castillo's salary.

1 minute ago, Harry Chappas said:

May want to check Castillo's salary.

$23 million for one season after also cutting Seranthony’s salary isn’t that massive. It’s not even close to what the total cost will be to sign a top starter this offseason to a multi-year deal.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by WhiteSox2023

This is very exciting