CYGarland Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 05:45 PM) And yes, our offense is struggling. No doubt. But I doubt one bat makes that much difference. If it's someone like Griffey, it can make a fairly big difference. It would move Everett to 5th and Aj to 7th, and give everyone around him better pitches to hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 07:44 PM) *sigh* So we were supposed to give up EVERYTHING we have... based on Tampa holding us hostage, or the Reds telling us no? No one moved, because the market wasn't conducive to making a move. actaully no, but the GM needs to find ways, other ways to improve. Again overpay, do what you need. What if* we do lose the division, the fans will take years to forgive this. Years! it will make the white flag look silly. THe GM's job is to get us in the best position. They have failed to fill the gaps to win a championship. I wonder if we were just 2 games up at the deadline if that would have jump started his ass. I bet it would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 06:44 PM) *sigh* So we were supposed to give up EVERYTHING we have... based on Tampa holding us hostage, or the Reds telling us no? No one moved, because the market wasn't conducive to making a move. I'm glad you were able to confirm that. Joe Randa moved. KW came in second. Tony Graffinino moved. KW came in second. KW could have given a better package for either of those without giving up EVERYTHING we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(That funky motion @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 05:47 PM) Base hit get us back in this! CLUTCH TIME!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Wasted opportunity, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadahito15 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 06:48 PM) CLUTCH TIME!!! Not so much. We suck right now. :banghead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Hanging curveball and Tadahity couldn't do anything with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(Tadahito15 @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 12:49 AM) Not so much. We suck right now. :banghead Our offense has sucked for quite a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 06:48 PM) I'm glad you were able to confirm that. Joe Randa moved. KW came in second. Tony Graffinino moved. KW came in second. KW could have given a better package for either of those without giving up EVERYTHING we have. KW already said the package he offered Cinci for Randa was much better than what SD offerred. He can't make them accept the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 12:48 AM) I'm glad you were able to confirm that. Joe Randa moved. KW came in second. Tony Graffinino moved. KW came in second. KW could have given a better package for either of those without giving up EVERYTHING we have. And I'm glad to know you're able to know what the offers were on the table. Seems like most of them were pretty significant pieces to our future. I know the attitude is win this year or else because this is our best chance in 90 years, but I don't believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That funky motion Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I got 9-8 cleveland. Hawks got 9-6 detroit. I'll take Hawks score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 How much did Matt Lawton cost? How much will Todd Walker cost? There are options that dont K silly, or get no hit for large parts of the game. If our pitching doesnt pitch their asses off, we have a problem. KW needs to get a bat, he doesnt need to get KGJ. He needs to find a bat that is a higher average, good obp, that doesnt K at the clip our team does. Medicore pitching shuts this team down too easily. If we had a medicore hitting team, this team is a world series favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 (edited) That last inning epitomizes the last however long. Edited August 30, 2005 by WHarris1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 12:50 AM) KW already said the package he offered Cinci for Randa was much better than what SD offerred. He can't make them accept the deal. I'm not saying you're wrong...but what do you expect KW to say? Yes, we tried to low ball the Reds, but we couldn't get Randa? Of course he's going to say he had a great offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 06:50 PM) KW already said the package he offered Cinci for Randa was much better than what SD offerred. He can't make them accept the deal. Maybe in his mind it was, but not in Cinci's. Part of the problem is the White Sox have overvalued their prospects for years. KW needs to put his money where is mouth is. Using one of his lines, why do you give up an additional prospect who probably won't be anything special in the big leagues? "1917" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 06:52 PM) I'm not saying you're wrong...but what do you expect KW to say? Yes, we tried to low ball the Reds, but we couldn't get Randa? Of course he's going to say he had a great offer. KW has no reason to lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 What is wrong with Buehrle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 12:53 AM) Maybe in his mind it was, but not in Cinci's. Part of the problem is the White Sox have overvalued their prospects for years. KW needs to put his money where is mouth is. Using one of his lines, why do you give up an additional prospect who probably won't be anything special in the big leagues? "1917" I can agree with your overvalue part. Joe Borchard, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 06:53 PM) Maybe in his mind it was, but not in Cinci's. Part of the problem is the White Sox have overvalued their prospects for years. KW needs to put his money where is mouth is. Using one of his lines, why do you give up an additional prospect who probably won't be anything special in the big leagues? "1917" Oh sorry. Didn't realize I was talking to a GM, who knows what both teams offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Well I do think you everything to win this year. Lookat the teams who win these things, they are stacked with pitching and hitting. Not one or the other. we are in serious trouble, KW has one more day to help this team, if he doesn't forget about the world series. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 06:53 PM) What is wrong with Buehrle? Josh this is a good hitting team we are facing. Lets not just discount their offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 12:53 AM) KW has no reason to lie. HA! I would be mad if KW didn't lie in a situation like that. It would look bad for him and the organization if he said that another team offered a better package for a player. KW is a very smooth talker, and he knows what people want to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 06:54 PM) HA! I would be mad if KW didn't lie in a situation like that. It would look bad for him and the organization if he said that another team offered a better package for a player. KW is a very smooth talker, and he knows what people want to hear. I disagree. He doesn't give a rats ass what the fans think about his moves. KW does what he thinks is best for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 9-8 Cleveland LET'S GO TIGERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 06:54 PM) Josh this is a good hitting team we are facing. Lets not just discount their offense. Look at Buehrle's splits, he's falling back to his norms very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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