Steve9347 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 My money is on Floyd, with Haeger and Danks the runners-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Realistically at least to start the year the first three appear to be the only legit choices, and the general consensus seems to be that Danks isn't quite ready yet. That leaves Floyd and Haeger, and they seem to be more enamored with the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I think their fifth state will be Texas, after Arizona, Illinois, California, and Ohio. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenksForPrez45 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 My money is also on Floyd but I think you cant count out the darkhorse of this all......Lance Broadway. Â And you can put that on the board.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 7, 2007 Author Share Posted February 7, 2007 Gavin Floyd prediction: 13-11, 4.34 era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenksForPrez45 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Feb 7, 2007 -> 03:39 PM) Gavin Floyd prediction: 13-11, 4.34 era  Mo Vaughn For CF:  "Mo Vaughn = Mo Rings!"  Great marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonik22 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 QUOTE(JenksForPrez45 @ Feb 7, 2007 -> 03:30 PM) My money is also on Floyd but I think you cant count out the darkhorse of this all......Lance Broadway. And you can put that on the board.... Lance started one game at AAA so i don't see this happening, but i would love to see this as he is my fav prospect and he's in my avy.  My money is on Floyd though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Feb 7, 2007 -> 03:39 PM) Gavin Floyd prediction: 13-11, 4.34 era I hope that's true. But maybe more than that, I hope that's tongue-in-cheek. Â I'd be amazed if he has an ERA under five. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Gavin Floyd has the most experience, so if they can make the necessary adjustments to his delivery to make him more consistent, then he has the upper leg. Haeger is always a backup option. Â Danks, Gio, and Broadway seem to be at least one year away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 7, 2007 Author Share Posted February 7, 2007 QUOTE(RME JICO @ Feb 7, 2007 -> 04:18 PM) Gavin Floyd has the most experience, so if they can make the necessary adjustments to his delivery to make him more consistent, then he has the upper leg. Haeger is always a backup option. Â Danks, Gio, and Broadway seem to be at least one year away. Â I think it's safe to say at least one of them will be taking over for MB in 08. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Floyd  And Im glad that Im the 6th member of the MO Vaugh for CF campaign.  Dont remember wanting to join, but now that I am I cant believe all the great benefits. Plus how defensively savy our team will be with the greatest CF on the earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoota Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I'm still hoping KW signs a veteran. I haven't heard much interest in Cory Lidle, so maybe KW can work under the radar. He could be the impact player to pilot us to the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 QUOTE(shoota @ Feb 7, 2007 -> 06:38 PM) I'm still hoping KW signs a veteran. I haven't heard much interest in Cory Lidle, so maybe KW can work under the radar. He could be the impact player to pilot us to the playoffs.  Oooohhhh...terrible      Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(shoota @ Feb 7, 2007 -> 05:38 PM) I'm still hoping KW signs a veteran. I haven't heard much interest in Cory Lidle, so maybe KW can work under the radar. He could be the impact player to pilot us to the playoffs.  That might be because he is no longer among the living. And is playing catch with Jesus  But puns with radar and pilot. It's just wrong. Edited February 7, 2007 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 It'll be Gavin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I am thinking it will be Floyd with Sisco as a possible dark horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoota Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 QUOTE(ptatc @ Feb 7, 2007 -> 05:51 PM) That might be because he is no longer among the living. And is playing catch with Jesus  But puns with radar and pilot. It's just wrong.  So you're saying the impact pun is straight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(shoota @ Feb 7, 2007 -> 05:55 PM) So you're saying the impact pun is straight? Â It's ok. But together with the other two??? Yeeesh Edited February 7, 2007 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Obviously Floyd is going to get every opportunity to win the job in spring training. KW is high on him and liked what he did in the AZ fall league while ignoring what he has done in the big leagues. I liked the Garcia trade. I think Freddy's ERA is about to skyrocket, and you don't want to have him signed to a long-term deal IMO. If Floyd or Gonzalez become good major leaguers, it was a great trade. I just don't think its going to happen in 2007. I still think KW has some cash to play with, so I wouldn't be surprised if the eventual 5th guy in the 2007 rotation is not yet in the organization. That said, if Buerhle doesn't bounce back, and either he, Garland or Contreras get injured for a significant amount of time, it might not matter who the fifth starter is. Hopefully everyone will remain healthy, Buerhle will be back to form, Vazquez will pitch like he pitched for the Expos and all the pitchers KW acquired will be half as good as he thinks they are. Then it won't matter who's playing SS or LF or leading off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 (edited) My guess is that if we really let the 2 compete, Haeger would wind up winning the job. If nothing else, he performed a lot better than Floyd in his few outings wrapping up last season, while Floyd struggled at AAA. Â That said, I think the fact that Charlie throws a Knuckler and the fact that Kenny gave up a lot to get Floyd is going to give Floyd the edge. I think Floyd wins, and I'm not sure it's the right call. Hopefully he proves me wrong and lives up to that #4 draft slotting. Â And under no conditions do I want to see anyone else from that list in the major league rotation before the All Star break rolls around. The others all need at least some work in AAA, if not a significant chunk. Edited February 8, 2007 by Balta1701 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Floyd is my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 (edited) KW is one of the best GMs when it comes to judging talent, and our pro-level scouts are top notch. If they watched Floyd for multiple outings this fall and could confidently say he would've given McCarthy a run for his money had he not been traded, this is really all I need to know who will win the spot. We have seen KW bring in guys with sporadic to no success in the past who have broken out as White Sox because he knows their true ability. Â Haeger seems to be the only other probable candidate for 5th starter. He excels at keeping the ball in the park, but is a mediocre pitcher when it comes to everything else. His minor league total runs surrendered are 27% higher than his earned runs due to lack of control, and this makes his stats seem better than they are. As someone mentioned above, I think if Haeger has an equal or even slightly better Spring than Floyd, the spot will still be Gavin's. Edited February 8, 2007 by 3E8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 QUOTE(3E8 @ Feb 7, 2007 -> 07:37 PM) KW is one of the best GMs when it comes to judging talent, and our pro-level scouts are top notch. If they watched Floyd for multiple outings this fall and could confidently say he would've given McCarthy a run for his money had he not been traded, this is really all I need to know who will win the spot. We have seen KW bring in guys with sporadic to no success in the past who have broken out as White Sox because he knows their true ability. Haeger seems to be the only other probable candidate for 5th starter. He excels at keeping the ball in the park, but is a mediocre pitcher when it comes to everything else. His minor league total runs surrendered are 27% higher than his earned runs due to lack of control, and this makes his stats seem better than they are. As someone mentioned above, I think if Haeger has an equal or even slightly better Spring than Floyd, the spot will still be Gavin's.  I haven't seen any minor league splits, nor do I really care to research it right now, but I definitely recall reading that Haeger's ERA after he was sent back down was north of 5.00. That's not exactly promising either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 It's been over thirty years since Wilbur Wood trotted out to the mound. I believe old timers will be reminiscing as Charlie takes the fifth starter spot. Oz would love the chance to have a different look and something unique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 8, 2007 Author Share Posted February 8, 2007 QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 8, 2007 -> 10:48 AM) It's been over thirty years since Wilbur Wood trotted out to the mound. I believe old timers will be reminiscing as Charlie takes the fifth starter spot. Oz would love the chance to have a different look and something unique. Â I vomit towards knuckleballers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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