fathom Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 I like the move, as even if it means the end of Dye next season, we will have improved our outfield defense. We just got Peavy and Rios for at least the next 3 seasons without giving up any of our top 4 prospects. The biggest sign to me this was a good deal? It's the fact that if the Cubs did this, we would have been b****ing about how lame it is to acquire a player this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nastymasty21 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 62 Rbi and can steal bags. Love it KW you are the man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 06:45 PM) Team success over individual success... I'm pretty sure most of these guys grasp that concept. Â I am certain they do also. But being benched basically ends a guy's career with a team. Who is going to be enthusiastic about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 No one is going to get "benched" if Ozzie handles this correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (Tex @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 06:46 PM) I am certain they do also. But being benched basically ends a guy's career with a team. Who is going to be enthusiastic about that? No one is being benched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 06:43 PM) I have also loved nearly all of KW's moves, except the two Swisher moves. I love this move. He gets the offseason heavy lifting done before the offseason.  We now have a real CF! I'm lovin' it.  What lifting did he get done? Usually we would be bidding for FAs that are coming off of a good year. We're giving 12 million dollars a year to a guy we HOPE and PRAY can get his OPS back to 860 or so. He hasn't been over 800 in a year and a half. I mean, f***, Aubrey Huff has a f***ing .917 OPS this year. Defense is nice and all, but we're talking 12 mil a year for a 830-860 OPS (hopefully) and solid CF defense. I'm sorry but that makes absolutely zero sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Best defensive OF we've had, that can also hit, since? Rowand? Probably better than Rowand too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 I was just watching the BLue Jay game up here in Canada, and they interviewed Rios in his street clothes on the way out of Yankee Stadium. He was teary-eyed about leaving and said he hadn't yet talked to the Sox about what his role would be with the team, but said he was excited about a chance to play in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 I hope this wasn't a Randy Meyers type wavier claim... not that Rios wont ever be able to play for us, but rather that KW didn't really want him and got him (and his salary) because he didnt want to see him in Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Yep thanks for the Catch Dewayne "The Truth" Wise. Im a little mixed on Rios just because Im not sure where he plays right now. I definatly like the move for next year and beyond. Alex Rios is definately capable of .285/25/90 line, and hes defense is solid, and he not a base clogger. I like the attitude of the Mgmt, win now for sure, get younger and faster for later. Not bad. This basically spells the end for either Dye or Thome next year, or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 His ABs are going to come from someone(s) total. Perhaps we have players thinking Great! Less playing time! I am so excited! But I really doubt it. Every pro athlete I have ever known wanted to be the guy playing every moment of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (jphat007 @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 06:38 PM) I have loved just about every deal that KW has ever done. Â I hate this move. Â You remind me of myself and the Pena/B.Allen debacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 This just guaranteed that I'll be going to more game sin August and September. I'm sure I'm not the only one who'll be going to more games now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Hmm, this is a claim where I can't see I like or hate yet. Not at least until the end of the year at earliest. Dye or Thome or both are probably pissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 06:50 PM) You remind me of myself and the Pena/B.Allen debacle. Â Unfortunately, or fortunately I suppose, that didn't cripple our spending for the next several years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeFabregas Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 06:50 PM) I hope this wasn't a Randy Meyers type wavier claim... not that Rios wont ever be able to play for us, but rather that KW didn't really want him and got him (and his salary) because he didnt want to see him in Detroit. Rios has reportedly been one of Kenny's targets for a while. A big no on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (jphat007 @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 06:48 PM) What lifting did he get done? Usually we would be bidding for FAs that are coming off of a good year. We're giving 12 million dollars a year to a guy we HOPE and PRAY can get his OPS back to 860 or so. He hasn't been over 800 in a year and a half. I mean, f***, Aubrey Huff has a f***ing .917 OPS this year. Defense is nice and all, but we're talking 12 mil a year for a 830-860 OPS (hopefully) and solid CF defense. I'm sorry but that makes absolutely zero sense to me. Rios is an elite defensive RF with an elite arm and the 500 innings he spent in CF last year were also among the best in the game. I suspect he'll be a bit better than 'solid' out there for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (jphat007 @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 04:48 PM) What lifting did he get done? Usually we would be bidding for FAs that are coming off of a good year. We're giving 12 million dollars a year to a guy we HOPE and PRAY can get his OPS back to 860 or so. He hasn't been over 800 in a year and a half. His OPS in the 2nd half last year was .879. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (Tex @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 11:50 PM) His ABs are going to come from someone(s) total. Perhaps we have players thinking Great! Less playing time! Â Not really. Ozzie delves into his bench a lot anyways. This may require just a little more of that, but it's going to be hardly noticeable if Ozzie plays the cards right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 06:52 PM) Rios is an elite defensive RF with an elite arm and the 500 innings he spent in CF last year were also among the best in the game. I suspect he'll be a bit better than 'solid' out there for us. He'd be b****ing at Kenny if we didn't put in the claim and Detroit picked him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockren Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 06:05 PM) Jerry Angelo goes for broke and trades for Jay Cutler Kenny Williams trades for Jake Peavy  Sox get Alex Rios for nothing  ...man. This is awesome. Now let's turn this into some wins.  Hint Hint Hint...Bulls... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 About 1 hour ago the entire Detroit Tigers organization crapped a little in their pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (rockren @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 06:53 PM) Hint Hint Hint...Bulls... Â ...lose Ben Gordon...addition by subtraction!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 I never thought I'd say this, but... Â stop being so pessimistic, jphat. I have all of the confidence in the world for KW, as should you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 11:50 PM) I hope this wasn't a Randy Meyers type wavier claim... not that Rios wont ever be able to play for us, but rather that KW didn't really want him and got him (and his salary) because he didnt want to see him in Detroit. Â A) Detroit isn't in any apparent position to add 60 million dollars. B ) Do you really think KW risks adding 60 million dollars for the sake of adding 60 million dollars? Â KW wanted him. He got him. Edited August 10, 2009 by Buehrle>Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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