Kenny Hates Prospects Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Okay, so Rios has #15. Beckham has #15. Beckham takes #69? Makes sense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 So this is what it feels like to be a Yankee fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Rios has talent, but lets not get carried away and think he's a bargain. Exactly how many $60 million contracts has KW doled out as a GM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (Tex @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:08 PM) So this is what it feels like to be a Yankee fan  I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:08 PM) Okay, so Rios has #15. Beckham has #15. Beckham takes #69? Makes sense... Â :lolhitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (Tex @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:08 PM) So this is what it feels like to be a Yankee fan If we get a press release tomorrow stating the Sox went WAAAAY over slot in the late rounds to sign Goodwin (a Borass client BTW), THEN we'll know what it feels like to be the Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 04:45 PM) I like the move, as even if it means the end of Dye next season, we will have improved our outfield defense. We just got Peavy and Rios for at least the next 3 seasons without giving up any of our top 4 prospects. The biggest sign to me this was a good deal? It's the fact that if the Cubs did this, we would have been b****ing about how lame it is to acquire a player this way. I think it means at least one of Dye/Thome is gone and that Jenks will be traded in the off-season. No way will the Sox be paying a closer massive bucks, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 I think if KW didn't claim him the Tigers would. His contract is under $6 million this year and they could have put him in RF instead of Maggs and kept Maggs $18 million from vesting for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:11 PM) I like it. Â I could get use to this. Of course now not winning the division seems like a disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Tonight's the night we're gonna make it happen Tonight we'll put all other things aside Get in this time and show me some affection We're goin' for those pleasures in the night I want to love you, feel you, wrap myself around you I want to squeeze you, please you, I just can't get enough And if you move real slow I let it go I'm so excited and I just can't hide it I'm about to lose control and I think I like it I'm so excited and I just can't hide it And I know I know I know I know I know I want you We shouldn't even think about tomorrow Sweet memories will last for long long time We'll have a good time, Baby, don't do worry And if we're still playin' around boy that's just fine Let's get excited, we just can't hide it I'm about to lose control and I think I like it I'm so excited and I just can't hide it I know I know I know I know I know I want you, I want you I want to love you, feel you, wrap myself around you I want to squeeze you, please you, I just can't get enough And if you move real slow I let it go I'm so excited, I just can't hide it I'm about to lose control and I think I like it I'm so excited and I just can't hide it I know I know I know I know I know I want you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 11, 2009 -> 12:11 AM) I think it means at least one of Dye/Thome is gone and that Jenks will be traded in the off-season. No way will the Sox be paying a closer massive bucks, imo. Â And you know I'll be thrilled when we trade Jenks. Cowley was saying earlier today that there's no way Dye doesn't return to the Sox next year, as he really wants to be here. However, I think today's move might have changed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:11 PM) I think it means at least one of Dye/Thome is gone and that Jenks will be traded in the off-season. No way will the Sox be paying a closer massive bucks, imo. Â I don't see anyway in which we can trade Jenks. We need more bullpen arms, not less (thought I understand your sentiment). We have nobody in our bullpen that we can really trust for this year or next right now other than Jenks or Thornton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Cowley says Kenny was trying to get Rios before the deadline anyway. Puts the "block Detroit" stuff to rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:13 PM) And you know I'll be thrilled when we trade Jenks. Cowley was saying earlier today that there's no way Dye doesn't return to the Sox next year, as he really wants to be here. However, I think today's move might have changed that. Yeah, Frank really wanted to stay too. Â I'm not entirely sold on wanting Jenks gone, but I only have had the chance to see him throw a couple times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 I usually don't watch BBTN, but it will funny to watch them downplay this move tonight. If it were the Red Cubs or Yankmees making this move....they would probably talk about it for half the show...and then show the Yankmee sweep again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (jphat007 @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 05:48 PM) What lifting did he get done? Usually we would be bidding for FAs that are coming off of a good year. We're giving 12 million dollars a year to a guy we HOPE and PRAY can get his OPS back to 860 or so. He hasn't been over 800 in a year and a half. I mean, f***, Aubrey Huff has a f***ing .917 OPS this year. Defense is nice and all, but we're talking 12 mil a year for a 830-860 OPS (hopefully) and solid CF defense. I'm sorry but that makes absolutely zero sense to me. Â Aubrey Huff doesn't have a .917 OPS. Try .725. He's worse than Rios. Â Aubrey Huff is also old and slow. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:15 PM) Aubrey Huff doesn't have a .917 OPS. Try .725. He's worse than Rios. Â Aubrey Huff is also old and slow. Â Yeah, that was 2 yrs ago. That was my bad for not reading correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmbjeff Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:09 PM) Rios has talent, but lets not get carried away and think he's a bargain. Exactly how many $60 million contracts has KW doled out as a GM? Â what other CF would you rather have for 12 million for the next 5 years given ages/production/declines/D,etc??? Â seriously...rowand? yeah right....ichiro,beltran or hunter? sure they are better but older and far more expensive. wells and his albatross deal? Â the CF's available via free agency are garbage and via trade we would have given up serious talent for someone like victorino,kemp,hamilton,etc. the young and upcoming CF's like mccutchen,fowler,rasmus arent going anywhere given their contracts. this deal was terrific when you take everything into account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattyguy78 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 2 former all stars in less than a month cant hurt us, i love kw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (Tex @ Aug 11, 2009 -> 01:15 AM) Yeah, Frank really wanted to stay too. Â And he would have stayed, but KW and the Sox didn't want him back in 2006. KW will decide which one he wants back, Dye or Thome, and it shouldn't be hard to keep them around for another year or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:15 PM) Aubrey Huff doesn't have a .917 OPS. Try .725. He's worse than Rios. Â Aubrey Huff is also old and slow. Â And can't play CF. That comparsion really doesn't make much sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 05:13 PM) And you know I'll be thrilled when we trade Jenks. Cowley was saying earlier today that there's no way Dye doesn't return to the Sox next year, as he really wants to be here. However, I think today's move might have changed that. If it doesn't, the Sox would have to add a left handed bat that could play some left field for cheap. A Raul Ibanez or something (not that Ibanez is available, but just throwing out random names). If they could do that, than you can also sign Dye to a fair deal for 1 or 2 seasons and let him Dh and play outfield. Â I would just be hard pressed to see how the Sox did that. Either way I don't see them handing out any major contracts this off-season, in fact I see more of what they do will be 1-2 year deals or involve trades where they shed some payroll and try younger guys at some non-key positions within the pen. Â I also think this puts an end to the Sox giving any money to a 5th starter. Our 5th starter next season (if the front 4 is healthy) will be one of Hudson/Torres/Garcia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Is it 5 years 60 mil remaining or 6 years 60 mil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (jphat007 @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 05:14 PM) I don't see anyway in which we can trade Jenks. We need more bullpen arms, not less (thought I understand your sentiment). We have nobody in our bullpen that we can really trust for this year or next right now other than Jenks or Thornton. I think we'll see Jenks spun for some above average prospects and also see the Sox make a play at a reliever or two at 1-2 year deals. Bottom line I fully expect Thornton to be the Sox closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 08:15 PM) Cowley says Kenny was trying to get Rios before the deadline anyway. Puts the "block Detroit" stuff to rest. Â Wait. So JP wouldn't make a deal when he could have gotten talent for him, but would then dump him for nothing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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