knightni Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 True fact: The Sox have made errors in 5 of their first 10 games. That averages out with multi-error games to equal more than 90 this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Now 6 of 11. Another multi-error game of all things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Ozzie is upset with the fans for getting on Pierre and now Rios for dropping balls. The White Sox have officially dropped 5 fly balls so far this year, with another couple questionable. Maybe Ozzie is just trying to protect his players, although he throws them under a bus occassionally, but if people are charged a lot of money to watch a game and guys are paid as much as those two, I think its more than reasonable to expect them to make plays high school kids make routinely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 08:35 AM) Ozzie is upset with the fans for getting on Pierre and now Rios for dropping balls. The White Sox have officially dropped 5 fly balls so far this year, with another couple questionable. Maybe Ozzie is just trying to protect his players, although he throws them under a bus occassionally, but if people are charged a lot of money to watch a game and guys are paid as much as those two, I think its more than reasonable to expect them to make plays high school kids make routinely. He said he doesn't care about the boos, but he doesn't like the Bronx cheers. I actually don't really care for those either, because you're not just letting them hear it when they suck but when they do what they're supposed to as well. However, I get that you can do what you want when you pay for tickets. I just won't participate in the Bronx cheers, personally. Â Of course, this assumes that players even give a crap what the crowd does. I think they do, somewhat, when it's the home crowd. Edited April 13, 2011 by ScottyDo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I've only heard highlights, haven't been able to see any games live yet, so it might be just be in the small sample that I've heard that Hawk sounds different. He sounds old. He sounds like he has a new accent. Did he get new teeth? Am I crazy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 03:12 PM) I've only heard highlights, haven't been able to see any games live yet, so it might be just be in the small sample that I've heard that Hawk sounds different. He sounds old. He sounds like he has a new accent. Did he get new teeth? Am I crazy? No, he just lost the old ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (knightni @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 10:23 PM) Now 6 of 11. Another multi-error game of all things. 7 of 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigHurt Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Wow, Sam Fuld makes a spectacular catch against us and now he's replacing Chuck Norris in the Chuck Norris jokes on Twitter. Funny... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 In case you haven't been watching. the Sox bullpen has now blown 6 saves in 12 games. Only the 2005 Rockies have blown as many saves thru 12 games since 1990. (they started out 2-10 on their way to a 67-95 season) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 "In total, the White Sox slipped to 5-3 when leading after eight innings and have yielded an astonishing 10 ninth-inning runs on this homestand. Those kind of scary numbers leave the shell-shocked relievers with very little left to say." Â Just epic fail. Epic fail. Nothing can get worse, only better (right?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 If they get rained out tonight, they'll probably play a doubleheader on Sunday. Â Then the question is---what will they do with the rotation? They might be forced to start Marquez, Harrell, or Dolsi the last game in Tampa. Â Peavy ready for 5 innings? Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 2005 & 2006 rotations had fewest starts last 4 innings or less since 1919 So I wondered: What rotation was the best at almost never needing a long man? The answer is a tribute to the job pitching coach Don Cooper and manager Ozzie Guillen do in Chicago with the White Sox. Their 2005 and 2006 rotations posted the fewest early knockouts in the live ball era (since 1919). An early knockout is defined as any start in which the starter is gone after four or fewer innings. The Phillies, already with two such starts, will be hard pressed to replace the world champion 2005 White Sox and their staff of Mark Buehrle, Freddy Garcia, John Garland, Jose Contreras and Orlando Hernandez.  Fewest starts 4 innings or fewer (full seasons since 1919)  Year Team Starts  2005 White Sox 5 2006 White Sox 7 1919 Robins 8 1922 Giants 8 1988 Expos 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 15, 2011 -> 01:15 PM) 2005 & 2006 rotations had fewest starts last 4 innings or less since 1919 That's really cool to see, I wouldn't have expected 2006 to be that low but the Sox have been great at going after guys that pitch a ton of innings and still stay relatively healthy (sans Peavy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Being that I've moved to Missouri my local news is all Cards and Royals. Found this article very interesting, echoing similar 'board mentality' regarding Walker... http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ber...19bb30f31a.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 QUOTE (knightni @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 06:10 PM) 7 of 12 8 of 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Anyone know how long Juan Pierre is under contract with Sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 QUOTE (oldsox @ Apr 16, 2011 -> 11:27 AM) Anyone know how long Juan Pierre is under contract with Sox? Â Just this year, but for future reference, here is a great site for contracts.... Â http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/c...-white-sox.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Just call this a gut feeling, a hunch or whatever ... but if the Sox can't turn this around quickly that there will be a new manager by May 15th. They have the talent but are not playing up to their capabilities. I've always been an Ozzie supporter, but it's the manager that falls on the sword. My guess is that they'd give Cora a shot, but I think I'd prefer Buddy Bell. It will be interesting to what kind of responses I get to this post. Bring it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 QUOTE (YASNY @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 01:45 AM) Just call this a gut feeling, a hunch or whatever ... but if the Sox can't turn this around quickly that there will be a new manager by May 15th. They have the talent but are not playing up to their capabilities. I've always been an Ozzie supporter, but it's the manager that falls on the sword. My guess is that they'd give Cora a shot, but I think I'd prefer Buddy Bell. It will be interesting to what kind of responses I get to this post. Bring it. Â Beware the Ides of May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 QUOTE (knightni @ Apr 15, 2011 -> 11:21 PM) 8 of 13 9 of 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 QUOTE (YASNY @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 12:45 AM) Just call this a gut feeling, a hunch or whatever ... but if the Sox can't turn this around quickly that there will be a new manager by May 15th. They have the talent but are not playing up to their capabilities. I've always been an Ozzie supporter, but it's the manager that falls on the sword. My guess is that they'd give Cora a shot, but I think I'd prefer Buddy Bell. It will be interesting to what kind of responses I get to this post. Bring it. Cora wouldn't really be a change in philosophy. Bell quit managing because he was sick of the travel. Maybe he is interested in getting back into it, I don't know, but his track record as a manager isn't quite stellar. Of course its not all his fault he's managed rotten teams, but the teams he has managed played a little better or about the same before he came on board and after he left than when he was making out the line up card which would indicate his impact for winning's sake is minimal if anything at all. I've never been an Ozzie guy but if those two are the choices, then I say why fire him. FWIW, Oney has stated if anything ever happened to Ozzie, Cora would never take the job. I don't buy it, but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxrwhite Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Putz and Jenks don't look so bad now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 QUOTE (since56 @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 07:51 AM) Putz and Jenks don't look so bad now. Jenks currently sports an ERA over 8.00. He'd fit right in this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 05:49 AM) Cora wouldn't really be a change in philosophy. Bell quit managing because he was sick of the travel. Maybe he is interested in getting back into it, I don't know, but his track record as a manager isn't quite stellar. Of course its not all his fault he's managed rotten teams, but the teams he has managed played a little better or about the same before he came on board and after he left than when he was making out the line up card which would indicate his impact for winning's sake is minimal if anything at all. I've never been an Ozzie guy but if those two are the choices, then I say why fire him. FWIW, Oney has stated if anything ever happened to Ozzie, Cora would never take the job. I don't buy it, but you never know. Â To be honest, I didn't even think beyond the organization because of JR's loyalty factor. I agree that Cora wouldn't be a philosophy change, but he's not nearly as gregarious as Ozzie, which at this point might be a plus. But, for the philosophy reason, I looked for someone else. Hence, Bell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 QUOTE (since56 @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 08:51 AM) Putz and Jenks don't look so bad now. Putz, no... Jenks is Jenks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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