max power Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Jones actually had a worse year than Dunn in 08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 11:24 PM) De Aza hasn't been coached long enough by Walker to ruin his swing. If we don't have a new hitting coach next season, I'd rather see him in the minors again where we can save his potential. He's 27 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 11:19 PM) Here's where I will wonder why Sale or Thornton aren't being used when we simply can't afford to lose another game to the Tigers. Â vs lefties this year...who's who? Â .289/.313/.368/.682 .228/.307/.342/.649 .220/.278/.300/.578 Â Â Â They are Thornton, Ohman, and Sale in order. Difference is, Thornton and Sale hold righties below a .700 OPS too, so they can be used for an inning or two at a time. Righties are hitting at an .813 clip against Ohman. The game is tied, you need one lefty out, and you have enough other options to use against righties. Who do you want pitching in the 13th, given this information, Matt Thornton or Will Ohman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 11:25 PM) Dude are you CRAZY!???!?!? HE IS DONE! HE FORGOT HOW TO HIT THE BALL HARD! If he ever hits 20 home-runs in a single season for the rest of his career I'd give YOU $100! HE IS DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /knee-jerk sarcasm  I heard Adam Dunn's 0-2 swing actually attracts bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 They sure are concerned with the aging Torii Hunter over there at first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 QUOTE (MAX @ Aug 24, 2011 -> 05:24 AM) I finally thought of a guy who fell off at an early age like Dunn. Andruw Jones.  But it would be difficult to find someone that thought Jones was doing it without any enhancements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 QUOTE (JoshPR @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 11:26 PM) Andruw fell off cause he Tought his body and skill was going to stay 24 forever and he got lazy Why did Dunn fall off? Perhaps because he got lazy too. But no one knows. It could still be an isolated year. But there is a precedent that says it may not be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Aug 24, 2011 -> 04:27 AM) He's 27 years old. Â Damn he looks good. How many years was he in the damn minors? He's kinda old for a rookie. Francour and Melky are as old as him. Edited August 24, 2011 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I can see him aging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 0-2 pitch out, amazing call Ozzie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 11:26 PM) Except he's already 29 or 30, isn't he? At least 28. 27. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Aug 24, 2011 -> 04:26 AM) Its not heartbreaking. De Aza will likely get his shot next year in Pierre's spot. If you should feel heartbroken for anyone its Viciedo who is stuck behind Dunn.  My LF platoon prediction is De Aza and Juan Rivera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 11:28 PM) Damn he looks good. How many years was he in the damn minors? He's kinda old for a rookie. Francour and Melky are as old as him. Injuries have stalled his career to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 11:28 PM) But it would be difficult to find someone that thought Jones was doing it without any enhancements. I'm not certain that he did. But yes, that might be what separates them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I have no faith in Frasor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Frasor has looked just awful on the Sox. Seems to be afraid of the bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Frasor's enough to make you wish Pena was back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I wish they played bowie at the cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 10:27 PM) vs lefties this year...who's who? .289/.313/.368/.682 .228/.307/.342/.649 .220/.278/.300/.578    They are Thornton, Ohman, and Sale in order. Difference is, Thornton and Sale hold righties below a .700 OPS too, so they can be used for an inning or two at a time. Righties are hitting at an .813 clip against Ohman. The game is tied, you need one lefty out, and you have enough other options to use against righties. Who do you want pitching in the 13th, given this information, Matt Thornton or Will Ohman?  The problem is that you plan for the extra inning game with the White Sox offense but then Ozzie seems to end up losing the game before we can get there as often and not....and now Konerko's bat isn't in the line-up, either.  I don't know. No matter what you do, this team just doesn't have it in 2012 and hasn't all year. It's like 2007 and 2009 all over again.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 QUOTE (MAX @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 11:26 PM) Jones actually had a worse year than Dunn in 08. Â He was more valuable though because he played CF. Â Vernon Wells has been just as bad offensively as Dunn, but his WAR is only -0.2 because he plays CF. Dunn is at -2.2 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Ive heard that somehow Frasor is a type B free agent, so theres always that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 11:31 PM) The problem is that you plan for the extra inning game with the White Sox offense but then Ozzie seems to end up losing the game before we can get there as often and not....and now Konerko's bat isn't in the line-up, either. I don't know. No matter what you do, this team just doesn't have it in 2012 and hasn't all year. It's like 2007 and 2009 all over again. It's 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Aug 24, 2011 -> 12:30 AM) I have no faith in Frasor. Â Neither do I. He just seems to hang everything, or at least it appears to me he does. Guy is not over-powering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 QUOTE (MAX @ Aug 24, 2011 -> 05:26 AM) Jones actually had a worse year than Dunn in 08. Â Â not quite. Â Dunn is historically bad, the worst in 100 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 11:31 PM) Frasor's enough to make you wish Pena was back. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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