On whether a change in leadership is needed:

 

"Not in my leadership. And I don't know that anywhere else," Williams said. "I mean, listen, last year in September we were in first place. We didn't make the playoffs last year, but it's not like we were, you know, scrubs. We have spent, over the last decade, a lot of time in first place.

Edited September 24, 201114 yr by Marty34

Just fire him now.. don't wait till end of the season.. That's a BS line.. Williams is trying to make us think he is the reason.. LOL.. its in spite.

sounds just like Ozzie. Although I suspect if it came out of his mouth, Victory would be saying "Thats right! Fire Williams!"

sounds just like Ozzie. Although I suspect if it came out of his mouth, Victory would be saying "Thats right! Fire Williams!"

 

What has Kenny done in 11 years other than build all but one crappy team?

What has Kenny done in 11 years other than build all but one crappy team?

 

oh dont try and drag me into your tired arguments. predictable and lame.

The Sox are not scrubs therefore Williams deserves to keep his job. Unbelievable that he would offer that as a defense. Insulting really.

oh dont try and drag me into your tired arguments. predictable and lame.

That's such an oversimplified arguement anyways. The 2005 team was not even KW's best-built team.

 

The GM has at best, an indirect effect on where the ballclub ultimately finishes at the end of the year.

That's such an oversimplified arguement anyways. The 2005 team was not even KW's best-built team.

 

The GM has at best, an indirect effect on where the ballclub ultimately finishes at the end of the year.

 

watch out, you might get "destroyed" by VMC

watch out, you might get "destroyed" by VMC

I'm one of the bigger KW supporters here, and everyone knows it, so I for the most part just stay out of these threads.

 

But by the criteria utilized by many here, there might be 4 GM's in the league that would ever last more than 2 seasons in their jobs.

I'm one of the bigger KW supporters here, and everyone knows it, so I for the most part just stay out of these threads.

 

But by the criteria utilized by many here, there might be 4 GM's in the league that would ever last more than 2 seasons in their jobs.

 

THANK YOU!!!

Honestly Williams should have been let go after Wilder, his friend he gave a job to, was indicted.

Can them both. Include all of the coaches. I don't care if they get rid of Cooper either. Gut them.

Honestly Williams should have been let go after Wilder, his friend he gave a job to, was indicted.

 

And Ozzie should have been let go after his homophobic slurs, letting his kid release clubhouse secrets, or calling the fans idiots multiple times. They both suck.

The Sox are not scrubs therefore Williams deserves to keep his job. Unbelievable that he would offer that as a defense. Insulting really.

Actually he was offering that as a defense of Ozzie and his coaches, as much as himself. And he's just posturing because Ozzie is still under contract for 2012 and he wants him to quit or to get compensation from the Marlins not fire him.

Edited September 24, 201114 yr by South Side Fireworks Man

And Ozzie should have been let go after his homophobic slurs, letting his kid release clubhouse secrets, or calling the fans idiots multiple times. They both suck.

 

Since he's not a Caucasian, he gets a free pass.

 

On whether a change in leadership is needed:

 

That KW quote means they are better at being mental midgets than they are at baseball.

Edited September 24, 201114 yr by kitekrazy

I thought for sure this was an Ozzie quote, but I should have been tipped off by the perfect english and sentence structure...

 

This organization needs enema...

And Ozzie should have been let go after his homophobic slurs, letting his kid release clubhouse secrets, or calling the fans idiots multiple times. They both suck.

 

There is no defense of Guillen here. You are too sensitive.

This is like Tigers Wood telling Elin that "during the course of our marriage, there was a lot of time where I was faithful and we were happy".

Saying he should be patted on the back for having a team that has spent time in first place but finished 3rd is garbage. KW needs to go.

What a bunch of crap. Awful Kenny.

He failed to mention all the time they spent in 2nd and 3rd place in perhaps, at least for the past 10 years, the worst division in baseball.

GM's should only be judged on playoff appearances.

 

2 times in 11 years in the biggest market in one of the weakest divisions is awful.

 

Kenny should be out, but Ozzie is a good first step.

 

And I also like that Kenny will be forced to drop payroll. Maybe it will make him resign eventually.

Maybe they could work that quote into next year's ad campaign, Hey we were in 1st place after opening day. KW has gone from making the playoffs isn't good enough, you must win, to spending time in first place at some point in the season is sign he's a success. This team needs to re-boot.

Edited September 24, 201114 yr by Dick Allen

Maybe they could work that quote into next year's ad campaign, Hey we were in 1st place after opening day. KW has gone from making the playoffs isn't good enough, you must win, to spending time in first place at some point in the season is sign he's a success. This team needs to re-boot.

 

It's not just a season because you know the current season has not been good. The measuring stick is "time in first place" over a DECADE. I love this bunch.

Edited September 24, 201114 yr by Marty34