Bulls*** 3 points for Wisconsin. How does the ruling stand. Brutal. And a poor 15 yard penalty

Illinois just got robbed for three points. What is the point of replay again?

Bulls*** 3 points for Wisconsin. How does the ruling stand. Brutal. And a poor 15 yard penalty

 

The ref involved in that call is either so incompetent that he should be fired on the spot or he is on the take.

Illinois needs to bench Scheelhaase.

Looks like Wisconsin will cover the spread after all.

 

 

Can we fire Beckman yet?

Well Illinois almost definitely loses anyways but that game was materially changed by the referees.

Can we fire Beckman yet?

 

No.

 

 

Punter and referee cost us big time before the safeties put the icing on the cake. Offense just isn't good, either. Lots of issues for Illinois...this is one of our worst teams in many years

Bout time, Denard

No.

Damn. What an awful hire.

Damn. What an awful hire.

Maybe, I'm going to give him a few years to get his own players, but firing him now would be all sorts of stupid.

 

The players clearly didn't buy into him, and that's a big issue for both sides.

Maybe, I'm going to give him a few years to get his own players, but firing him now would be all sorts of stupid.

 

The players clearly didn't buy into him, and that's a big issue for both sides.

Stupid because we would owe a lot of money. He's clearly in over his head.

Stupid because we would owe a lot of money. He's clearly in over his head.

We already struggled to hire a coach, imagine trying to convince anyone worthwhile to come here after a bad season, PR disaster in firing a 1 yr coach, and oh yea, come work for fanbase/AD that is fire happy.

We already struggled to hire a coach, imagine trying to convince anyone worthwhile to come here after a bad season, PR disaster in firing a 1 yr coach, and oh yea, come work for fanbase/AD that is fire happy.

At worst we get stuck with another Tim Beckman.

Stupid because we would owe a lot of money. He's clearly in over his head.

 

Sure looks that way but the only thing I can say in his defense is that there isn't a coach in the country that could make this offense competent. Zook's recruiting his last 3 years was absolutely atrocious, especially on offense and we we are going to pay the price for that. This is exactly why a competent AD fires Zook in 2009 after he goes 3-9 with a bunch of NFL talent and then the next coach would have had an opportunity to build momentum by having winning teams the next few years. But instead we hold on to an incompetent coach for two extra years and while those seasons were respectable we put ourselves in a position where Beckman's staff has no talent on offense and very little young talent on defense.

Oh those Notre dame helmets......

Dorsett drops two sure touchdowns

Dorsett drops two sure touchdowns

 

Can't make a difficult catch on another long pass.

Interesting pair of calls against Ohio State. The Nebraska WR gets a deep ball and stiff arms 2 defenders to the facemask, pulls one of them, and the refs only call the facemask on the second defender (who already had a hand in his face). How do refs miss calls like these?

I agree there's a line, the line is different for everyone and not easy to find.

 

I find out years later we were big-time paying Dee, Deron, their families, et al? I'm pretty furious. Not "hey, it was a great run though." Tainted in my mind forever. That's the stuff I'm talking about.

 

I don't want to be so damn dirty just to get a championship...because I won't look at it the same way anyway, so what's the point.

 

How would it be tainted? Dee & Deron may have been paid, just like their opponents in the national championship game were? I'm sure that all of those 6 NBA draft picks on UNC were clean too.

 

Luther Head was stealing from fellow students? Does that taint your Final Four run?

 

The memory would be nowhere near the same.

 

Would your memory suddenly forget the elite 8 game vs. Arizona like it never happened? Doubtful.

Can we fire Beckman yet?

 

Can we re-hire Ron Zook? It can't be worse.

Georgia....not so good...

 

Notre Dame absolutely took it to Miami. 5-0 baby!

Can we re-hire Ron Zook? It can't be worse.

 

At least Beckman actually has a recruiting class with talent (well right now anyways, who knows if those kids stay committed with the way this season is going). Even being generous Zook basically recruited only 2 good offensive players in his last 4 recruiting classes.