Kyyle23 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 As enticing as BMac is, I just wish the guy could stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 13, 2012 -> 11:06 AM) McCarthy intrigues me. Knowing a lot of the Guillen history, I really wonder if he was moved because Ozzie didn't like him. He was a young pup, going out to clubs with everyone's favorite communist Brian Anderson. I wonder if there is something there that would prevent the Sox from being interested, besides the obvious injury issues. I'm no Ozzie apologist, but if there's one manager who wouldn't hold it against someone for going out and having a good time after a game, its him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 13, 2012 -> 02:36 PM) I'm no Ozzie apologist, but if there's one manager who wouldn't hold it against someone for going out and having a good time after a game, its him. Â He sure hated Brian Anderson for it, if you believe the rumors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 13, 2012 -> 02:39 PM) He sure hated Brian Anderson for it, if you believe the rumors. If he hated Anderson I don't think it was for partying. It may be he didn't take his job seriously, which may have been caused by partying, I have no idea. I do know the Sox were miffed when they tried to change some things with his swing and he refused. But I don't think it was for stealing Oney's chicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I think Millwood and Wolf are realistic expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 QUOTE (whitesox901 @ Jul 13, 2012 -> 08:44 PM) I think Millwood and Wolf are realistic expectations. Â Wolf in the AL in a hitter's park is very scary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 13, 2012 -> 02:45 PM) Wolf in the AL in a hitter's park is very scary 5.80 era in the n.l. ...i think humber can do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 QUOTE (whitesox901 @ Jul 13, 2012 -> 01:44 PM) I think Millwood and Wolf are realistic expectations. Â Then why bother? Neither is likely to outperform Humber, IMO, or really any other Coop-trash-heap-reclamation project. Â Aim higher or stand pat. If aiming higher is too costly, stand pat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 13, 2012 -> 02:55 PM) Then why bother? Neither is likely to outperform Humber, IMO, or really any other Coop-trash-heap-reclamation project. Aim higher or stand pat. If aiming higher is too costly, stand pat.  I don;t mind a Coop project because it comes cheap and can turn into success. Guys like Wolf/Colon though aren't Coop projects and they likely aren't going to give us much better than Humber/Axel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 13, 2012 -> 02:55 PM) Then why bother? Neither is likely to outperform Humber, IMO, or really any other Coop-trash-heap-reclamation project. Aim higher or stand pat. If aiming higher is too costly, stand pat.  My guess is...the organizations is worried about Danks not being able to pitch again this year. Humber is your number 5 AND they want to limit Sale toward the end of the year. So, you need a 6th starter and Axelrod hasn't proven it yet. Now, if Axelrod has a good start or two, then maybe they can look for only a reliever. That's JMHO.  By the way, remember, the only trade in 2005 was Geoff Blum. So a veteran bullpen arm might be a good sign. Just sayin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 13, 2012 -> 03:55 PM) Then why bother? Neither is likely to outperform Humber, IMO, or really any other Coop-trash-heap-reclamation project. Aim higher or stand pat. If aiming higher is too costly, stand pat.  Wolf was a s***ty suggestion, I agree.  Milwood would't be bad pick up for 2 months.  xFIP of 4.25, SIERA of 4.43.  Milwood also has better road splits this year, somehow.   Obviously its not landing Freddy Garcia in 2004, but its not a bad back of the rotation option. Edited July 14, 2012 by whitesox901 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 And there's no reason to be 100% confident about Quintana holding up either. Â His biggest problem is that he lacks an out pitch or the ability to pitch well without precise control. He's not a strikeout pitcher. Â Â I hope he can make it through the end of the season, fingers crossed. Along with the Yankees game, he seems to be coming back to earth a bit and the other teams are building up a scouting report on him which didn't exist 6 weeks ago around the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon_44 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I'd like the Sox to address the bullpen more. SD is open to trading Huston Street and they have been trade partners in the past. It just depends on what SD would ask for in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Joe Strauss said the White Sox scouts are still following the Cards around. Any idea who we might be interested in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jul 14, 2012 -> 08:46 AM) Joe Strauss said the White Sox scouts are still following the Cards around. Any idea who we might be interested in? Westbrook or Lohse, maybe. I don't know for sure though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 (edited) Westbrook or Lohse, maybe. I don't know for sure though.  Lohse would be a nice addition to the Sox roster. I wish it was Wainwright though  Wainwright did pitch last night, while the Sox scouts were there. The Yankees are also following the Cards around Edited July 14, 2012 by SOXOBAMA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jul 14, 2012 -> 09:01 AM) Lohse would be a nice addition to the Sox roster. I wish it was Wainwright though lohse yes, westbrook,no thanks. doesnt lohse have a no trade cluase though? i remember when they were interested in getting buehrle i think, he said he wouldnt waive his no trade clause Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 The Sox are going to trade Hudson for Lance Lynn, straight up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 QUOTE (whitesox901 @ Jul 13, 2012 -> 02:44 PM) I think Millwood and Wolf are realistic expectations. Both should be able to be acquired basically for nothing. But they're not an upgrade, however, if Humber pitches decently and/or Danks returns. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 If the Sox get a right-handed starter it has to be someone with good stuff who you'd be ok with starting a postseason game against the Yankees, Rangers, or Red Sox. That's a short short list that maybe a guy like Volquez is on the fringes of. If the Sox could get his walk rate down maybe he'd give us 1/2 year like Jackson did in 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Since when are Lohse or Westbrook available? Cards are still contending.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 14, 2012 -> 09:25 AM) Since when are Lohse or Westbrook available? Cards are still contending.. Yeah, I think they are more likely to be looking to add pitching than giving it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 14, 2012 -> 09:25 AM) Since when are Lohse or Westbrook available? Cards are still contending.. I never said they are. I said maybe. Looking at their roster, I don't know who else it could be. Like you said, they still aren't out of it. I was thinking Rzepczynski as a situational LHP but he's been terrible this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 14, 2012 -> 09:21 AM) If the Sox get a right-handed starter it has to be someone with good stuff who you'd be ok with starting a postseason game against the Yankees, Rangers, or Red Sox. That's a short short list that maybe a guy like Volquez is on the fringes of. If the Sox could get his walk rate down maybe he'd give us 1/2 year like Jackson did in 2010. Â Â Which would require Don Cooper miracle working/raising Lazarus from the dead. Â Didn't realize you were a fan of his. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 14, 2012 -> 10:40 AM) Which would require Don Cooper miracle working/raising Lazarus from the dead. Didn't realize you were a fan of his.  Cooper is the rockstar of pitching coaches good with the bad. Jackson was in roughly the same boat as Volquez is now when they traded for him and that worked out pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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