beck72 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 09:59 PM) CJ Edwards would have been either our 1st or 2nd best pitching prospect I'm just saying that the sox need to get a top position player back in a deal for Peavy. Olt wouldn't have been my choice. So there are many other teams that fit besides Texas. Sardinas wouldn't have headlined a deal-much like Edwards, a good 2nd prospect. FWIW, I'd like the sox to be able to get Sardinas sometime soon, without a Peavy deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulstar Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (beck72 @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 04:32 PM) I'm just saying that the sox need to get a top position player back in a deal for Peavy. Olt wouldn't have been my choice. So there are many other teams that fit besides Texas. Sardinas wouldn't have headlined a deal-much like Edwards, a good 2nd prospect. FWIW, I'd like the sox to be able to get Sardinas sometime soon, without a Peavy deal. I actually like Odor above Sardinas, and it would be nice if the Rangers want to give him up this deadline to for a reliever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 CJ Edwards was my favorite prospect in the Rangers minors...very good get by the Cubs and also adding Grimm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 My gut tells me the Red Sox are going to make the major move to get Peavy and Crain. They are loaded with Solid prospects in the infield and starting pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Grimm for Neil Ramirez was probably the hold up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 04:42 PM) My gut tells me the Red Sox are going to make the major move to get Peavy and Crain. They are loaded with Solid prospects in the infield and starting pitching. I've always thought packaging Peavy and Crain would maximize a return, but Crain needs to return and pitch a couple times. It would be nice to see a bidding war from a few teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 04:46 PM) I've always thought packaging Peavy and Crain would maximize a return, but Crain needs to return and pitch a couple times. It would be nice to see a bidding war from a few teams. Hopefully Crain can come back and pitch a game or two. Crain is a free agent and not going to risk it and lose out on last big contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Anyone catch Heyman's interview this morning? I caught it just in time if you want me to break it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 01:50 PM) Anyone catch Heyman's interview this morning? I caught it just in time if you want me to break it down. I'd like to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 04:52 PM) I'd like to know He said GM's actually like Peavy's deal more because of the extra year. This was surprising to him because he said he would rather go after the cheaper rental. He said Alex Rios is actually very well thought of around the league and one blip on the radar isnt going to affect him. He said Crain needs to pitch before somebody probably makes an offer for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 It will be interesting to see Hahn's strategy for Peavy now that Garza is off the market. Will he try to work a deal out fast or will he hold on to Peavy until the last few minutes of the deadline to maximum the possible return? Hahn should have control of the sellers market now and needs to take advantage of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 01:55 PM) He said GM's actually like Peavy's deal more because of the extra year. This was surprising to him because he said he would rather go after the cheaper rental. He said Alex Rios is actually very well thought of around the league and one blip on the radar isnt going to affect him. He said Crain needs to pitch before somebody probably makes an offer for him. These are all things I wanted to hear, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 For Peavy you get the best of both worlds....an extra year and the option of extending him a quali offer after as Heyman pointed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 With Garza deal done, Sox now have arguably the best pitcher, relief pitcher and hitter available in the trade marke. Things could get very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 03:05 PM) With Garza deal done, Sox now have arguably the best pitcher, relief pitcher and hitter available in the trade marke. Things could get very interesting. It will be interesting to see how different this team is 10 days from now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 02:55 PM) He said GM's actually like Peavy's deal more because of the extra year. This was surprising to him because he said he would rather go after the cheaper rental. He said Alex Rios is actually very well thought of around the league and one blip on the radar isnt going to affect him. He said Crain needs to pitch before somebody probably makes an offer for him. Cheaper monetarily but they gave up a player per month for him if they make the post season because of him. If not it's even more. Huge over pay. Yes envious that it couldn't be Peavy. Edited July 22, 2013 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 05:05 PM) With Garza deal done, Sox now have arguably the best pitcher, relief pitcher and hitter available in the trade marke. Things could get very interesting. Hahn will have to manage all these assets very carefully. He can't afford to keep them all until the last few minutes of the deadline. That's why I think we'll see a move or two made at least a couple days prior to the deadline. Lindstrom in particular could go quick IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 05:08 PM) Cheaper monetarily but they gave up a player month for him if they make the post season because of him. If not it's even more. Huge over pay. Yes envious that it couldn't be Peavy. I really think its a fair deal for both sides. As for Heyman he was talking about the contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 04:46 PM) I've always thought packaging Peavy and Crain would maximize a return, but Crain needs to return and pitch a couple times. It would be nice to see a bidding war from a few teams. I wouldn't be surprised to see Peavy and Lindstrom go to Boston instead, given that the White Sox will have leverage to demand a quick move on peavy but Boston won't want to commit to Crain until he is healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Sounds like the PTBNL could be Neil Ramirez. Fantastic return if true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 23, 2013 -> 12:15 AM) Sounds like the PTBNL could be Neil Ramirez. Fantastic return if true. It's just amazing to me how much value Garza had. Hahn better get a better return for Peavy than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Gordon Wittenmyer @GDubCub 5m Olt to be assigned to Iowa. Grimm too. Edwards to A Daytona. And TWO ptbnl's in deal. Retweeted by Chris De Luca Expand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 06:15 PM) Sounds like the PTBNL could be Neil Ramirez. Fantastic return if true. Source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 06:21 PM) Gordon Wittenmyer @GDubCub 5m Olt to be assigned to Iowa. Grimm too. Edwards to A Daytona. And TWO ptbnl's in deal. Retweeted by Chris De Luca Expand Christ. Peavy's price shot up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 06:25 PM) Source? Peter Gammons @pgammo 18m Garza haul of Edwards, Olt, Grimm and the chance to take N. Ramirez as PTBNL a boom for Cubs, statement about Tex. system Expand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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