Balta1701 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 9, 2014 -> 10:18 PM) It's two different legs though, right? That's never a good thing for a player whose game is based almost completely on speed and hustle. So that's 2 legs and an arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 http://www.nationalsarmrace.com/?p=8839 Nationals' fans respond to Keith Law column about supposed mishandling of Bryce Harper and Matt Williams' (and by extension, Gibson too) many issues as a manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 So Eaton missed 5 games with an ankle and will miss something like 2 to 4 weeks with a hamstring injury. This is pretty typical stuff. Not a great start to his White Sox run, but I don't see evidence of an injury prone player. He averaged over 120 games a year in the minors, where not many players get that many games played. While people have wondered if his playing style would cause him injury, his arm injury was throwing-related and what he's dealing with now is somewhere between random occurrence and wear and tear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 11, 2014 Author Share Posted May 11, 2014 Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 1h Casey Janssen activated today by Blue Jays; Chris Getz designated for assignment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 11, 2014 Author Share Posted May 11, 2014 MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 3h Rays Release Heath Bell http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/?p=38038 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 11, 2014 -> 10:04 AM) MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 3h Rays Release Heath Bell http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/?p=38038 Sign him up for Charlotte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 Marc Topkin @TBTimes_Rays 10m Heath Bell has cleared waivers and is officially released by #Rays, who owe him rest of the $5.5M they were paying of his $9M salary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 clarkspencer @clarkspencer 8m Source: #marlins pitcher Jose Fernandez undergoing MRI in Los angeles Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 7m Sources: Jose Fernandez expected to be placed on disabled list. Exact nature of injury not known. #Marlins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Sprained right elbow for Fernandez, pending MRI results http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseba...-unknown-injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 would be shocked if it's not Tommy John. (fantasy wise this is devastating for me). Just goes to show you, just ride sale until it happens. You never know who it's going to happen to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ May 12, 2014 -> 06:53 PM) would be shocked if it's not Tommy John. (fantasy wise this is devastating for me). Just goes to show you, just ride sale until it happens. You never know who it's going to happen to. Exactly. It again makes the Nationals look silly for benching Strasburg for the 2012 playoffs, the future is not a given for any pitcher. Well except Mark Buehrle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Buster Olney and others reporting that Fernandez almost definitely will need TJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 So at this point the solution is to stop using pitchers, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 12, 2014 -> 07:14 PM) So at this point the solution is to stop using pitchers, right? It might put an end to the World Baseball Classic, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 12, 2014 -> 08:14 PM) So at this point the solution is to stop using pitchers, right? Just let your position players pitch. If they injure their elbow, they can most likely still bat so it's OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 12, 2014 -> 09:15 PM) It might put an end to the World Baseball Classic, that's for sure. Because that didn't happen this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 12, 2014 -> 07:19 PM) Because that didn't happen this year? It's every other year, I thought. Last one was 2013. I can't imagine not at least having it in Asia, where MLB is trying to develop the game. Amongst the Japanese, Korean, Taiwanese and Cuban national teams, to name just 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Another win for Buehrle. A bit of a rough start with 5 BB, but only 2 ER. Moves him to 7-1 with a 2.04 ERA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) The Fernandez situation is sad, but almost predictable, imo. In watching his highlights recently, it appeared that his slider was a very stressful pitch and that he threw it a lot. Haven't found the stats as to the percentages of what he was throwing, but he was falling off the mound every time. I know very, very little about pitching mechanics, but I figured this wasn't a good thing. Almost posted about it a couple days ago - I guess I would have looked smart. But this sucks, and is bad for the game, obviously. Something (many things) needs to change about the way these kids are being brought along. In the meantime, more changeups, less sliders, Mr. Sale please. Edited May 13, 2014 by Stan Bahnsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ May 12, 2014 -> 09:27 PM) The Fernandez situation is sad, but almost predictable, imo. In watching his highlights recently, it appeared that his slider was a very stressful pitch and that he threw it a lot. Haven't found the stats as to the percentages of what he was throwing, but he was falling off the mound every time. I know very, very little about pitching mechanics, but I figured this wasn't a good thing. Almost posted about it a couple days ago - I guess I would have looked smart. But this sucks, and is bad for the game, obviously. Something (many things) needs to change about the way these kids are being brought along. In the meantime, more changeups, less sliders, Mr. Sale please. See Rodon/"The Franchise" 2006 Francisco Liriano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I hate to see Fernandez hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 13, 2014 -> 12:16 AM) I hate to see Fernandez hurt. Agreed, it's a big blow to the game. He is fun to watch pitch. His velocity has dropped Erik Johnson-like in his last few starts. QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ May 12, 2014 -> 10:27 PM) In the meantime, more changeups, less sliders, Mr. Sale please. Just sucks because the slider is Sale's most devastating pitch. As bmags said though, in a way you have to ride your guy and hope for the best. In a way, that's why I'm not too concerned about guys like Kolek (real high velocity at 18) or Rodon (real high pitch counts) to an extent. Edited May 13, 2014 by SoxAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 QUOTE (SoxAce @ May 12, 2014 -> 11:21 PM) Agreed, it's a big blow to the game. He is fun to watch pitch. His velocity has dropped Erik Johnson-like in his last few starts. Just sucks because the slider is Sale's most devastating pitch. As bmags said though, in a way you have to ride your guy and hope for the best. In a way, that's why I'm not too concerned about guys like Kolek (real high velocity at 18) or Rodon (real high pitch counts) to an extent. Risk is always going to be part of it, but maybe these prospect showcases and 8-9 months of pitching annually needs to end, pronto. But these things probably make money, so good luck with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 QUOTE (SoxAce @ May 13, 2014 -> 12:21 AM) Agreed, it's a big blow to the game. He is fun to watch pitch. His velocity has dropped Erik Johnson-like in his last few starts. Just sucks because the slider is Sale's most devastating pitch. As bmags said though, in a way you have to ride your guy and hope for the best. In a way, that's why I'm not too concerned about guys like Kolek (real high velocity at 18) or Rodon (real high pitch counts) to an extent. The slider is not inherently a more stressful pitch. It is only more stressful when you drop down to get more slide to it as opposed to drop. If you throw it properly it's no more stressful than a fastball, the problem is many pitchers change either the elbow or shoulder angle to make it move more. This makes it a better pitch and tougher to hit but causes more stress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ May 12, 2014 -> 10:27 PM) The Fernandez situation is sad, but almost predictable, imo. In watching his highlights recently, it appeared that his slider was a very stressful pitch and that he threw it a lot. Haven't found the stats as to the percentages of what he was throwing, but he was falling off the mound every time. I know very, very little about pitching mechanics, but I figured this wasn't a good thing. Almost posted about it a couple days ago - I guess I would have looked smart. But this sucks, and is bad for the game, obviously. Something (many things) needs to change about the way these kids are being brought along. In the meantime, more changeups, less sliders, Mr. Sale please. The guy with the best changeup of this generation has had his career derailed by shoulder injuries. Just wanted to point it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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