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QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 9, 2014 -> 03:28 PM)
I'm liking the patience from Garcia.

 

See more pitches = better pitches to hit = better hitting. Garcia's patience of late has translated well to results with the bat.

As Hawk says everyday, "The more pitches you see, the more dangerous you are."

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 9, 2014 -> 08:29 PM)
It made no sense for the Sox to spend money on mediocre pitching this winter. They have guys in the system who are on the way, and they are no where near competing.

 

Not saying someone like Santana/Jimenez, but someone they could hopefully rely on to give them innings if needed. Steve Stone is already concerned about getting enough innings from the rotatio

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QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 9, 2014 -> 03:30 PM)
Not saying someone like Santana/Jimenez, but someone they could hopefully rely on to give them innings if needed. Steve Stone is already concerned about getting enough innings from the rotatio

 

I personally think Rienzo can be an innings eater. He might not be good (4.5-5 ERA), but he can probably go 5-6 innings for you and not make you pull your hair out.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 9, 2014 -> 02:29 PM)
It made no sense for the Sox to spend money on mediocre pitching this winter. They have guys in the system who are on the way, and they are no where near competing.

 

If Flowers is major league average offensively at catcher and Abreu's MVP caliber (like Quentin in 2008), then they're not so far away.

 

But yeah, the bullpen and the back of the rotation aren't fixable in one off-season or in the middle of a season.

 

And, despite yesterday's anomaly, the schedule for the next month will probably illuminate the true nature of this team's overall talent...they will be inconsistent/unpredictable/talented/exciting, HOPEFULLY.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 9, 2014 -> 03:33 PM)
If Flowers is major league average offensively at catcher and Abreu's MVP caliber (like Quentin in 2008), then they're not so far away.

 

But yeah, the bullpen and the back of the rotation aren't fixable in one off-season or in the middle of a season.

 

And, despite yesterday's anomaly, the schedule for the next month will probably illuminate the true nature of this team's talent.

 

Flowers' hot start might make him ML average this year if he doesn't completely tank the rest of the year.

 

ZiPS has him projected at a .326 wOBA for the year with a .309 wOBA the rest of the way. That's perfectly acceptable for a catcher.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 9, 2014 -> 02:30 PM)
Not saying someone like Santana/Jimenez, but someone they could hopefully rely on to give them innings if needed. Steve Stone is already concerned about getting enough innings from the rotatio

 

 

Like the Phil Hughes/Josh Johnson types. Someone a tier or two above Paulino but not Santana/Jimenez/Garza in terms of financial commitment.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 9, 2014 -> 03:35 PM)
Like the Phil Hughes/Josh Johnson types. Someone a tier or two above Paulino but not Santana/Jimenez/Garza in terms of financial commitment.

 

I don't think Hughes is really that much better than Paulino. And Johnson can never stay healthy.

 

Nice play by Avisail.

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 9, 2014 -> 02:36 PM)
I don't think Hughes is really that much better than Paulino. And Johnson can never stay healthy.

 

Nice play by Avisail.

 

Nolasco, Maholm, etc.

 

Someone durable who won't kill you and can give you the innings and rest your bullpen.

 

 

Desperately needed to have an easier inning there to get some confidence back.

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QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 9, 2014 -> 03:37 PM)
Pretty much only throwing 89 and 90

 

A lot of pitchers have velocity issues in April, but this is like 3-4 MPH slower than what he threw last year.

 

If he's still throwing like this in another 2-3 starts, then we should really be concerned.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 9, 2014 -> 03:38 PM)
Nolasco, Maholm, etc.

 

Someone durable who won't kill you and can give you the innings and rest your bullpen.

 

Nolasco got quite a bit of money, a lot more than what we should be paying for a innings eater.

 

Maholm would have made more sense, but he'd probably get killed in the AL.

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QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 9, 2014 -> 02:39 PM)
I feel like Johnson has only thrown 2 pitches all game and it ranges from 85-91. No wonder why he has been bad. Does he not have a change up or curve ball?

 

He flipped up a 71 MPH curveball at least once but it wasn't in the strike zone.

 

If he can get an advantage in some counts, maybe he'll break it out.

 

You could tell he didn't want to give Car-Go a BP fastball so he tried to get ahead with the offspeed stuff and got himself into a 2-0 count because of command issues and generalized fear of challenging him.

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