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Brandon Beachy and Kris Medlan

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1.I saw the Braves are going to Non-Tender both these guys. They both have surgery before last season.

 

2.The timetable for Tommy John Surgery Canidates is usually 12-14 months. One could imagine that both would be able to contribute to next seasons roster.

 

3. I would think they would be worth a flyers on with incentive laden deals. A team could probably give them two year deals. White Sox are in need of right handed starting pitching. At the very least, you could have them come out of the bullpen.

 

4. Both of them are in the prime of their careers so age is not a factor. The only negative is this is the second Tommy John Surgery for both of them.You wonder if the stuff will still be there.

 

 

My Question Deal or No Deal?

QUOTE (kwill @ Dec 2, 2014 -> 06:26 PM)
1.I saw the Braves are going to Non-Tender both these guys. They both have surgery before last season.

 

2.The timetable for Tommy John Surgery Canidates is usually 12-14 months. One could imagine that both would be able to contribute to next seasons roster.

 

3. I would think they would be worth a flyers on with incentive laden deals. A team could probably give them two year deals. White Sox are in need of right handed starting pitching. At the very least, you could have them come out of the bullpen.

 

4. Both of them are in the prime of their careers so age is not a factor. The only negative is this is the second Tommy John Surgery for both of them.You wonder if the stuff will still be there.

 

 

My Question Deal or No Deal?

 

Absolutely. Medlen has 2 years of control and Beachy has 3

Fans of 29 teams are all saying the same thing.

Beachy is a converted position player, so the arm troubles were predictable. Medlen has had two TJSs. I would proceed with extreme caution.

QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Dec 2, 2014 -> 07:45 PM)
Beachy is a converted position player, so the arm troubles were predictable. Medlen has had two TJSs. I would proceed with extreme caution.

I'd be all over Beachy on an incentive-laden deal.

I believe they both have had 2 TJ opps.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 02:04 AM)
I believe they both have had 2 TJ opps.

 

there is 1 who is the sp, i would really like a chance at him.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 2, 2014 -> 07:22 PM)
there is 1 who is the sp, i would really like a chance at him.

 

They both are SP

The question is whether anyone will offer them a major league deal. For us, that would require putting them on the 40 man and right now that's something I'd hesitate about a bit. If either are up for a minor league deal with a ST invite then they'll have their choice of teams to go to, and with our reputation we've got as good a chance as any.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 02:42 AM)
The question is whether anyone will offer them a major league deal. For us, that would require putting them on the 40 man and right now that's something I'd hesitate about a bit. If either are up for a minor league deal with a ST invite then they'll have their choice of teams to go to, and with our reputation we've got as good a chance as any.

 

i know what you are saying, but lets look at this way, he has to be put on the 40 man roster

for the waiver. just like Jones, after the allotted time, when Jones goes back on IR and if either

one is not ready, then you attached them to the IR as well.

 

there is room on the 40 list.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 2, 2014 -> 08:48 PM)
i know what you are saying, but lets look at this way, he has to be put on the 40 man roster

for the waiver. just like Jones, after the allotted time, when Jones goes back on IR and if either

one is not ready, then you attached them to the IR as well.

 

there is room on the 40 list.

There's 1 spot available right now and we're already removing people who I think could have contributed next year as much as these guys. I'd like to think we could do better with that open spot.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 02:50 AM)
There's 1 spot available right now and we're already removing people who I think could have contributed next year as much as these guys. I'd like to think we could do better with that open spot.

 

maybe, i am not disputing you here, but before he got hurt, he was a real nice

surprise. stash him on the IR until he is ready, a nice inexpensive element to

use.

 

the sox can still squeeze that 40 man roster a little more.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 2, 2014 -> 07:04 PM)
I believe they both have had 2 TJ opps.

I would not offer much th en. The esearch is not favorable with pitchers that have had more than one surgery.

Speaking of rehabs, what happened to Tommie Hanson?

 

Did he ask for his release from the Charlotte roster?

Isnt Beachy having setbacks in his recovery?

Is anyone interested in Alexi Ogando from Texas or Everth Cabrera from San Diego? Both non-tendered.

It's really a shame that both of these guys have had awful luck with injuries. They both were so good when healthy. Medlen, in particular, was nasty during that 2nd half of 2012 when they moved him into the starting rotation.

QUOTE (dasox24 @ Dec 2, 2014 -> 10:22 PM)
It's really a shame that both of these guys have had awful luck with injuries. They both were so good when healthy. Medlen, in particular, was nasty during that 2nd half of 2012 when they moved him into the starting rotation.

Sometimes the reason they are so good is because they are throwing in a way they shouldn't which is why the ball moves differently and the reason they become injured. They would not be good withoutthe bad mechanics.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 2, 2014 -> 10:21 PM)
Is anyone interested in Alexi Ogando from Texas or Everth Cabrera from San Diego? Both non-tendered.

 

Ogando was pretty solid up until last year, would definitely take a look at him

I'm sure Medlen would like a 1-year deal to regain his contractual value. Let's sign him for 1 year, then flip him midseason for prospects.

I'm not sure if anyone has talked about it, but maybe Wesley Wright would be a nice pickup on a minor league deal. He looked solid last year for the Cubs and would add another lefty into the mix now that snoddy is gone.

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 05:11 AM)
I'm not sure if anyone has talked about it, but maybe Wesley Wright would be a nice pickup on a minor league deal. He looked solid last year for the Cubs and would add another lefty into the mix now that snoddy is gone.

 

Robin really sounded impressed by Surkamp during last September. I wouldn't be shocked to see him as the second lefty, while they look for a closer type righty out of the pen.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 12:48 AM)
I'm sure Medlen would like a 1-year deal to regain his contractual value. Let's sign him for 1 year, then flip him midseason for prospects.

 

will he be ready in time to establish value? I thought i read both him and Beachy are looking at mid season returns from TJS

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 02:30 PM)
will he be ready in time to establish value? I thought i read both him and Beachy are looking at mid season returns from TJS

at best yes, midseason.

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