knightni Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Cue up the PS4! Sox: Cespedes Upton Tigers: Avi Garcia Erik Johnson Chris Reed (LAD) Padres: Saladino Zach Lee (LAD) Joe Ross (WAS) Nationals: Laroche Dodgers: Shark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 12:46 PM) Cue up the PS4! Sox: Cespedes Upton Tigers: Avi Garcia Erik Johnson Chris Reed (LAD) Padres: Saladino Zach Lee (LAD) Joe Ross (WAS) Nationals: Laroche Dodgers: Shark Nothing like your good ol' 5 team ten player trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 12:46 PM) Cue up the PS4! Sox: Cespedes Upton Tigers: Avi Garcia Erik Johnson Chris Reed (LAD) Padres: Saladino Zach Lee (LAD) Joe Ross (WAS) Nationals: Laroche Dodgers: Shark Dodgers current rotation is literally seven deep: Kershaw Greinke Latos Wood Anderson Bolsinger Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 12:46 PM) Cue up the PS4! Sox: Cespedes Upton Tigers: Avi Garcia Erik Johnson Chris Reed (LAD) Padres: Saladino Zach Lee (LAD) Joe Ross (WAS) Nationals: Laroche Dodgers: Shark We get absolutely hosed in that deal, two rentals and we lose Shark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 12:46 PM) Cue up the PS4! Sox: Cespedes Upton Tigers: Avi Garcia Erik Johnson Chris Reed (LAD) Padres: Saladino Zach Lee (LAD) Joe Ross (WAS) Nationals: Laroche Dodgers: Shark Nationals fans will be elated to have LaRoche back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 12:48 PM) Dodgers current rotation is literally seven deep: Kershaw Greinke Latos Wood Anderson Bolsinger Lee They're still looking to acquire a starter, though. Because there's nothing like the good old 8-man rotation, am I right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 12:48 PM) Nationals fans will be elated to have LaRoche back! Yeah wait I thought the deal sucked for us but the Nationals absolutely gain nothing from that deal and Joe Ross looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I had forgotten about the Dodgers having so many SPs. Which contender needs a starting pitcher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 #Mets still discussing Yoenis Cespedes with the #Tigers, sources say. https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/627179025157390336 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 13m13 minutes ago #Nationals are NOT pursuing Cespedes, per @barrysvrluga. All the latest on his market: http://bit.ly/1M1EWTv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 mets are making a push for yoenis cespedes. would be big move. https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/status/627181758149185536 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Well I guess Cespedes to NYM and Upton here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 For some reason I had thought Mets had to remain payroll neutral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 12:45 PM) This. Jake's post is spot-on without context, but Avi blows. It isn't about young players in general, it's about continuing to pretend that Garcia is some high-end prospect, despite not a single sign of improvement as he approaches his first 1000PA in the MLB after ~2000PA in the minors. Still can't pick pitches to swing at, still can't react to balls hit to him, still takes the most confusing routes we've seen since Manny Ramirez. It is all prespective. If Garcia were the same age, but went the traditional US route of playing 3 years of college ball, and was at the same point, no one would blink an eye. He'd be in his third year after college. He has a long history because he was signed as a 16 year old, and brought to the US at 17 for rookie ball. In terms of age an experience, he is still pretty young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 01:30 PM) For some reason I had thought Mets had to remain payroll neutral. I'll believe the Mets are serious when the deal is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 02:34 PM) It is all prespective. If Garcia were the same age, but went the traditional US route of playing 3 years of college ball, and was at the same point, no one would blink an eye. He'd be in his third year after college. He has a long history because he was signed as a 16 year old, and brought to the US at 17 for rookie ball. In terms of age an experience, he is still pretty young. The other big difference...if he went that route, he wouldn't be headed to his first arbitration contract this offseason, so he'd have time before a raise was due. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 11:34 AM) It is all prespective. If Garcia were the same age, but went the traditional US route of playing 3 years of college ball, and was at the same point, no one would blink an eye. He'd be in his third year after college. He has a long history because he was signed as a 16 year old, and brought to the US at 17 for rookie ball. In terms of age an experience, he is still pretty young. He still has had a lot of at bats in the minors and majors to show who / what he is. Agree he is young for his experience / talent, etc. If Trout stunk for 5 years but came up when he was 19 or 20, I wouldn't just say, well he's still super young for his age, I'd eventually say, look, the tools aren't going to play (this is just using Trout as an example). Problem with Trout is he could have stunk offensively (production wise...with tools that remained) and I'd have been more then patient with him because of what he could do on the basepaths and in the field at a premium position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 01:36 PM) The other big difference...if he went that route, he wouldn't be headed to his first arbitration contract this offseason, so he'd have time before a raise was due. For payroll, sure. For his potential ceiling, and odds of reaching it? No. That is irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 02:40 PM) For payroll, sure. For his potential ceiling, and odds of reaching it? No. That is irrelevant. Actually I'd say its very relevant because it puts a clock on his time to reach that ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 01:39 PM) He still has had a lot of at bats in the minors and majors to show who / what he is. Agree he is young for his experience / talent, etc. If Trout stunk for 5 years but came up when he was 19 or 20, I wouldn't just say, well he's still super young for his age, I'd eventually say, look, the tools aren't going to play (this is just using Trout as an example). Problem with Trout is he could have stunk offensively (production wise...with tools that remained) and I'd have been more then patient with him because of what he could do on the basepaths and in the field at a premium position. If he was American, he would have had a ton of ABs in high school, college, fall ball, travel leagues etc, we just wouldn't have statistics on them like we do with the MiLB. He would have still been getting tons of ABs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 The #WhiteSox would love to add a bat, but unless they move position player off their 25 man roster, they have no room. https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/627189253835862016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 01:51 PM) The #WhiteSox would love to add a bat, but unless they move position player off their 25 man roster, they have no room. https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/627189253835862016 Worst tweet ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 01:51 PM) The #WhiteSox would love to add a bat, but unless they move position player off their 25 man roster, they have no room. https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/627189253835862016 How did we not catch that earlier? Well then, this deadline is OVA If that is real, Nightengale must be on Quaaludes and gin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 11:54 AM) How did we not catch that earlier? Well then, this deadline is OVA If that is real, Nightengale must be on Quaaludes and gin. Funny thing is...of all insiders, when it comes to the Sox, I trust him the most. I presume this is some BS spin from Kenny / Hahn to drive leverage, I just don't know what GM could look at them with a straight face after hearing that. This isn't Hawk and his "where will he play" logic. Those teams were far deeper then this team. If they believe we have no holes (check that...no major holes) on our roster and no needs, they are delusional or aren't intending on competing and are really going to sell, haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 What scares me about that tweet is Nightengale has a very good Sox source, so our FO might actually think that this is an issue when they have Leury Garcia rotting on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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