I think Quintana + can get Arenado.

 

 

Absolutely. Arenado is 24, put 4.5 fWAR and had a wRc of 119. He has 3 arb years left. He's a stud but he will not re-sign with Colorado and Q is also a stud on a great contract.

Could Nobuhiro Matsuda be an option at 3B? He's already 32 but has put up nice numbers in Japan.

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/11/nobu...eda-timing.html

 

Here's one of his homers:

Very interesting. You'd have to think a 32 year old who hasn't played outside Japan would come very cheap. Would love to explore that.

 

 

Also he does not require a posting fee. So even cheaper.

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Quintana would instantly become their #1, plus I'm sure Sox would add some top prospects to go along with it.

 

They aren't exactly going anywhere with that pitching staff.

 

But they create a hole as big as the one they fill. I'm sure they want Quintana, but they're going to want to trade prospects, not other stars they already need.

Quintana would instantly become their #1, plus I'm sure Sox would add some top prospects to go along with it.

 

They aren't exactly going anywhere with that pitching staff.

 

 

Why would the Sox add top prospects? Arenado is the kind of guy I'd trade Q for. I'm not adding top prospects though.

Could Nobuhiro Matsuda be an option at 3B? He's already 32 but has put up nice numbers in Japan.

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/11/nobu...eda-timing.html

 

Here's one of his homers:

 

i am not decided on that, how old is laroche last yr???

 

maybe a 1 yr with options for 2yr.

 

the sox needs to get some pieces via fa.

 

they have to in order to compete esp for the media in chi. granted they will never over come the other team, but they can not fall too far behind.

Not straight up. Sale has more value.

Without a doubt I was just stating that would be the more realistic trade

We want cost controlled players. Bats to be specific. Arenado would be perfect. Would give us our 3B we've lacked since Crede.

But they create a hole as big as the one they fill. I'm sure they want Quintana, but they're going to want to trade prospects, not other stars they already need.

They also have a 3B waiting in the wings. McMahon at AA IIRC.

The Rockies aren't going to trade Arenado unless you dramatically overpay. Can we stop the madness? It isn't happening.

 

He's probably the new face of the franchise.

 

 

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They also have a 3B waiting in the wings. McMahon at AA IIRC.

Good - trade for him then.

The Rockies aren't going to trade Arenado unless you dramatically overpay. Can we stop the madness? It isn't happening.

 

He's probably the new face of the franchise.

 

killjoy.

 

but with ref to McMahon their other 3b prospect. if anything they would trade him instead.

/plan

 

sign all the heros

 

/end plan

The Rockies aren't going to trade Arenado unless you dramatically overpay. Can we stop the madness? It isn't happening.

 

He's probably the new face of the franchise.

You're speaking to deaf ears my man. Some just will not let go of the Xbox fantasy.

You're speaking to deaf ears my man. Some just will not let go of the Xbox fantasy.

 

i never played zbox.... to complicated for me.

GM Meetings version:

 

-Extend Samardzija QO, he rejects it

-Decline Alexei's option

-Resign Albers

-Sign Nobuhiro Matsuda to 3 yr, $36 MM deal

-Trade Fulmer, Danish, Trey, and low level arm for Jonathan Lucroy

 

CF Eaton

C Lucroy

1B Abreu

DH LaRoche

LF Cabrera

3B Matsuda

RF Thompson

2B Sanchez

SS Saladino

 

BE A. Garcia

BE Flowers

BE Johnson

BE L. Garcia

 

SP Sale

SP Quintana

SP Rodon

SP Johnson

SP Danks

 

CL Robertson

SU Jones

SU Montas

RP Duke

RP Petricka

RP Turner

RP Albers

 

Anderson comes up and takes over at SS as soon as he's ready, Saladino takes Leury's utility spot on the bench.

killjoy.

 

but with ref to McMahon their other 3b prospect. if anything they would trade him instead.

 

This is entirely dependent on whether or not the Rockies think they are are in their championship window right now, or in a couple years. They just traded Tulo, Reyes is under a lot of fire with the law right now, they have been rumored to be trading Cargo for a while now. If they aren't ready to win now, then they may as well dump their biggest asset for a #1 starter if they have a guy to replace that asset in 2 years anyway. Not that McMahon will be as good as Arenado, but they Q is under team control longer than Arenado, and will be cheaper than Arenado once Nolan hits arb. And Q in the NL would likely improve his value in the event they decide to trade him again in 2 or 3 years anyway. I don't necessarily think this trade lines up perfectly, but I can see the rationale behind the Rockies doing it. If you think this is a video game trade, then it's clearly because you undervalue Quintana immensely. He's a top 15-20 starter.

The Rockies aren't going to trade Arenado unless you dramatically overpay. Can we stop the madness? It isn't happening.

 

He's probably the new face of the franchise.

It's something to banter about. I can dream can't I? Let a sleeping dog lie.

GM Meetings version:

 

-Extend Samardzija QO, he rejects it

-Decline Alexei's option

-Resign Albers

-Sign Nobuhiro Matsuda to 3 yr, $36 MM deal

-Trade Fulmer, Danish, Trey, and low level arm for Jonathan Lucroy

 

CF Eaton

C Lucroy

1B Abreu

DH LaRoche

LF Cabrera

3B Matsuda

RF Thompson

2B Sanchez

SS Saladino

 

BE A. Garcia

BE Flowers

BE Johnson

BE L. Garcia

 

SP Sale

SP Quintana

SP Rodon

SP Johnson

SP Danks

 

CL Robertson

SU Jones

SU Montas

RP Duke

RP Petricka

RP Turner

RP Albers

 

Anderson comes up and takes over at SS as soon as he's ready, Saladino takes Leury's utility spot on the bench.

 

 

Jesus overpaid Christ that's a lot for Lucroy no thanks!

Jesus overpaid Christ that's a lot for Lucroy no thanks!

I was about to make a rebuttal... but then I saw Lucroy's 2015 stats.

I was about to make a rebuttal... but then I saw Lucroy's 2015 stats.

It's just way too much for him. I know we need a catcher but that's getting fleeced.

I was about to make a rebuttal... but then I saw Lucroy's 2015 stats.

 

Let's deal for Derek Norris instead.

I was about to make a rebuttal... but then I saw Lucroy's 2015 stats.

 

His 700+ OPs despite playing injured most all season? His projections for 2016 are .279/.343/.435 and he costs $5 MM next season. He isn't going to be had for a song.

It's just way too much for him. I know we need a catcher but that's getting fleeced.

 

It's probably more in line than you think.

His 700+ OPs despite playing injured most all season? His projections for 2016 are .279/.343/.435 and he costs $5 MM next season. He isn't going to be had for a song.

But we also don't need to be raped.

His 700+ OPs despite playing injured most all season? His projections for 2016 are .279/.343/.435 and he costs $5 MM next season. He isn't going to be had for a song.

 

Lucroy is a great player, but that is pretty much cleaning out our farm. I wouldn't do it.

 

Maybe Adams, Danish, and Montas. Keep Trey. Keep Fulmer.