No Puig.......ever. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2597460...rce=twitter.com

 

i would regardless of what jose has to say, if they, the sox trade with the dodgers for puig for Brandon Brennan - sp and Danks - sp

 

other wise, pass

Gonna say trade for CarGo and sign Howie Kendrick. Then pen and rotation depth.

 

This. What is the market even for Kendrick? Might be able to get him on a bargain.

This. What is the market even for Kendrick? Might be able to get him on a bargain.

 

If we have to give up a draft pick. I hope it's not Howie Kendrick.

Gonna say trade for CarGo and sign Howie Kendrick. Then pen and rotation depth.

 

 

I really doubt they'd give up a top 30 pick to sign 32 year old Howie Kendrick.

Remember, keep this thread strictly to plans of what Sox could/should do given the current moves already. Do not stray off topic.

 

Sign OF Justin Upton 6 years/125 million

Trade OF Avail Garcia, SS Tim Anderson, SP Frankie Montas, and 2B Micah Johnson to the Reds for Todd Frazier

Trade RP Zach Putnam to the Diamondbacks for Competitive B Draft Pick

Trade 1B Adam LaRoche + Cash to the Pirates for 1 lower level minor leaguer

 

Lineup:

LF Adam Eaton (L)

DH Melky Cabrera (S)

1B Jose Abreu

RF Justin Upton

3B Todd Frazier

2B Brett Lawrie

C Alex Avila/Dioner Navarro (L) (S)

CF Trayce Thompson

SS Tyler Saladino

 

2B/SS Carlos Sanchez (S), OF J.B Shuck (L), C Alex Avila (L)/Dioner Navarro (S), Rule 5 pick/FA/Mike Olt

 

Rotation:

SP Chris Sale (L)

SP Jose Quintana (L)

SP Carlos Rodon (L)

SP Erik Johnson

SP John Danks (L)

 

Bullpen:

RP Jacob Turner (long man)

RP Jake Petricka

RP Dan Jennings (L)

RP Tommy Kahnle

RP Zach Duke (L)

RP Nate Jones

CP David Robertson

 

Thoughts?

Sox would be crazy to give up that much for Frazier.

Angels traded for Yunel Escobar to play third. Anyone think Freese is a realistic option at third now?

Angels traded for Yunel Escobar to play third. Anyone think Freese is a realistic option at third now?

Escobar is coming off of a money season. All that said, I think if the Sox are going to add someone else, they should be adding someone that can get on base, play d, be a good all around hitter. I don't really see Freese as that guy. Of course if the contract was right, it wouldn't be awful and I'd be fully on board with Freese / Upton / Lawrie as an off-season.

 

it all depends on the money...

OF Yoenis Cespedes 4y/$80m

SS Ian Desmond 1y $8.5m

Erik Johnson to Red Sox for 2B Brock Holt

 

1 Adam Eaton CF

2 Ian Desmond SS

3 Jose Abreu 1B

4 Yoenis Cespedes LF

5 Brock Holt 2B

6 Brett Lawrie 3B

7 Melky Cabrera DH

8 Trayce Thompson RF

9 Navarro/Avila C

 

Avila, Garcia, Sanchez, LaRoche (so stupid he has to be on the Sox still) off the bench.

 

Pitching is the same.

OF Yoenis Cespedes 4y/$80m

SS Ian Desmond 1y $8.5m

Erik Johnson to Red Sox for 2B Brock Holt

 

1 Adam Eaton CF

2 Ian Desmond SS

3 Jose Abreu 1B

4 Yoenis Cespedes LF

5 Brock Holt 2B

6 Brett Lawrie 3B

7 Melky Cabrera DH

8 Trayce Thompson RF

9 Navarro/Avila C

 

Avila, Garcia, Sanchez, LaRoche (so stupid he has to be on the Sox still) off the bench.

 

Pitching is the same.

 

Pitching isn't same since now you have a hole in rotation.

OF Yoenis Cespedes 4y/$80m

SS Ian Desmond 1y $8.5m

Erik Johnson to Red Sox for 2B Brock Holt

 

1 Adam Eaton CF

2 Ian Desmond SS

3 Jose Abreu 1B

4 Yoenis Cespedes LF

5 Brock Holt 2B

6 Brett Lawrie 3B

7 Melky Cabrera DH

8 Trayce Thompson RF

9 Navarro/Avila C

 

Avila, Garcia, Sanchez, LaRoche (so stupid he has to be on the Sox still) off the bench.

 

Pitching is the same.

 

not bad, i like the b. holt trade.... thinking...

 

i also like another pitcher sp-Ryan Vogelsong. i just do not know why. i think he can be had for 2 yrs... low salary.

 

OF Yoenis Cespedes 4y/$80m

SS Ian Desmond 1y $8.5m

Erik Johnson to Red Sox for 2B Brock Holt

 

1 Adam Eaton CF

2 Ian Desmond SS

3 Jose Abreu 1B

4 Yoenis Cespedes LF

5 Brock Holt 2B

6 Brett Lawrie 3B

7 Melky Cabrera DH

8 Trayce Thompson RF

9 Navarro/Avila C

 

Avila, Garcia, Sanchez, LaRoche (so stupid he has to be on the Sox still) off the bench.

 

Pitching is the same.

 

You can go ahead and double that price for Cespedes, and add a few years.

 

OF Yoenis Cespedes 4y/$80m

SS Ian Desmond 1y $8.5m

Erik Johnson to Red Sox for 2B Brock Holt

 

1 Adam Eaton CF

2 Ian Desmond SS

3 Jose Abreu 1B

4 Yoenis Cespedes LF

5 Brock Holt 2B

6 Brett Lawrie 3B

7 Melky Cabrera DH

8 Trayce Thompson RF

9 Navarro/Avila C

 

Avila, Garcia, Sanchez, LaRoche (so stupid he has to be on the Sox still) off the bench.

 

Pitching is the same.

 

Cespedes is going to make a lot more money then that. And who is the 5th starter?

Ian Desmond is going to make way more money than that

I would much rather go with Saladino over signing Desmond who has been trending downward for a few years.

I would much rather go with Saladino over signing Desmond who has been trending downward for a few years.

 

Funny thing though is his defense has remained consistent(positive play actually). So that's a little interesting.

Should get a resolution on this sometime early next week after Heyward signs tomorrow or Saturday. The market will pick up and all hell should break loose this weekend. Hope Cincy blinks and we get Frazier cheaper.

If we trade a rotation starter, I do want to see us sign someone like Johan as the 5th starter. I think he can comeback like Kazmir did.

Funny thing though is his defense has remained consistent(positive play actually). So that's a little interesting.

It has and I give him credit but his bat, suspected salary and comp pick makes me want to run away screaming like Anna Faris in scary movie.

Desmond won't happen. If we're spending a pick on a FA, it'll be an OF bat.

Laugh if you want but we should sign Gordon and I bet KC would take Melky back in a minor deal. Sox can pay 1/3 or 1/2 of Melky's salary in KC. Sox need defense and Gordon's excellence there might rub off on the franchise. Gordon, Trayce and Cespedes or Eaton (if we can't trade Avi) would not be a bad outfield. If we really can get Holt or Frazier that also would be nice. In that scenario we should sign Lexi back as we'd have a contender (maybe).

 

My contender: Our current pitching staff minus Johnson (in the trade for Holt or Frazier).

1B - Abreu.

2B - Holt or Lawrie if we get Frazier.

SS - Lexi

3B - Lawrie (hopefully Frazier with Laurie at second).

LF - Gordon.

CF - Trayce.

RF - Eaton.

C - The two hacks we acquired.

DH - Cespedes/LaRoche plays DH once a week and 1B once a week.

Pitching - It's playoff worthy already even minus Johnson.

GO SOX!

Edited December 11, 201510 yr by greg775

Desmond won't happen. If we're spending a pick on a FA, it'll be an OF bat.

Cespedes doesn't cost a pick.

You can go ahead and double that price for Cespedes, and add a few years.

You sure? There's been almost zero buzz around him. I know the OF market is waiting on Heyward but Cespedes would at least be getting some interest you would think.

 

The guy always seems to find himself in the postseason (except that time Beane dealt him for Lester) and guys around him in the lineup seem to play better with him around. He's a true middle of the order bat and I'm thinking he could be had for a lot less than Gordon and Heyward, neither of whom are the offensive player Cespedes is.

You sure? There's been almost zero buzz around him. I know the OF market is waiting on Heyward but Cespedes would at least be getting some interest you would think.

 

The guy always seems to find himself in the postseason (except that time Beane dealt him for Lester) and guys around him in the lineup seem to play better with him around. He's a true middle of the order bat and I'm thinking he could be had for a lot less than Gordon and Heyward, neither of whom are the offensive player Cespedes is.

 

It is a long off-season man. He will get close to double the money you said

You sure? There's been almost zero buzz around him. I know the OF market is waiting on Heyward but Cespedes would at least be getting some interest you would think.

 

The guy always seems to find himself in the postseason (except that time Beane dealt him for Lester) and guys around him in the lineup seem to play better with him around. He's a true middle of the order bat and I'm thinking he could be had for a lot less than Gordon and Heyward, neither of whom are the offensive player Cespedes is.

 

I can't imagine he gets less than $150M. And if he does, then it will be at at least a $25M AAV. So basically, 5/$125 is about the lowest I can see him getting in terms of years and money.