Pump the breaks, yo. Nerlens Noel is a dinosaur in today's NBA. His kind is extinct.

 

Embiid is awesome, but he's basically DeMarcus Cousins 2.0.

 

Simmons would be a rookie PG this year. Challenging LeBron and Co? Not so much.

 

No, Okafor is. Not Noel. Noel is tailor-made for today's nba under the right coaching and system. Embiid, after sitting out two years, was putting up per 36 stats that rival Wilt. Simmons is a poor man's LeBron. easy. They're top 3 with all healthy. They botched okafor/unicorn, but the point is they were in position to botch it.

No, Okafor is. Not Noel. Noel is tailor-made for today's nba under the right coaching and system. Embiid, after sitting out two years, was putting up per 36 stats that rival Wilt. Simmons is a poor man's LeBron. easy. They're top 3 with all healthy. They botched okafor/unicorn, but the point is they were in position to botch it.

I just think you're early on it is all. Simmons couldn't lead a team past LeBron this early healthy or not.

 

The upside is there, though. I disagree on Noel. He's got no ability to develop range, so he needs to get a lot bigger if he's going to basically be Andre Drummond.

My favorite part about this thread is we're going to keep having this exact same argument on Jimmy for probably the next 3 years. And then we can keep all arguing about rebuilding and then we can keep all arguing about how good the Sixers and Bucks and Twolves are. Love you guys.

Pump the breaks, yo. Nerlens Noel is a dinosaur in today's NBA. His kind is extinct.

 

Embiid is awesome, but he's basically DeMarcus Cousins 2.0.

 

Simmons would be a rookie PG this year. Challenging LeBron and Co? Not so much.

 

J4L is right, I don't see how Noel, being the Tyson Chandler/Marcus Camby type player, is extinct in today's NBA. I hope he eventually learns to play next to Embiid, the tandem would be nasty on defense.

 

If by DeMarcus Cousins 2.0, you meant that Embiid could be a monster scorer and rebounder like Cousins while actually being a defensive anchor, then you're right.

 

If 2 years, if the Sixers core could stay healthy and continue to develop, they could be really, really good, maybe even best in the East. But until then, you just have to #trusttheprocess.

J4L is right, I don't see how Noel, being the Tyson Chandler/Marcus Camby type player, is extinct in today's NBA. I hope he eventually learns to play next to Embiid, the tandem would be nasty on defense.

I'm curious what player under the age of thirty is like this. Andre Drummond? These guys are going extinct if they aren't already. Bigs are now asked to stretch the floor.

I'm curious what player under the age of thirty is like this. Andre Drummond? These guys are going extinct if they aren't already. Bigs are now asked to stretch the floor.

 

Yeah, Jo Noah was the last guy I can think of.

No, Okafor is. Not Noel. Noel is tailor-made for today's nba under the right coaching and system. Embiid, after sitting out two years, was putting up per 36 stats that rival Wilt. Simmons is a poor man's LeBron. easy. They're top 3 with all healthy. They botched okafor/unicorn, but the point is they were in position to botch it.

We don't know what Simmons is yet. He could just as easily be a poor man's Nicolas Batum for the next year or two. He's certainly nowhere near the scorer that even young LeBron was. That team also has zero NBA caliber guards and who knows how durable Embiid will be long term.

 

Now maybe in 2 years they have something, especially if they get one of those PG in the draft and they pan out. Right now, they're not an "easy" anything.

I'm curious what player under the age of thirty is like this. Andre Drummond? These guys are going extinct if they aren't already. Bigs are now asked to stretch the floor.

 

DeAndre Jordan and Rudy Gobert. Whiteside to some extent, although he has developed a solid mid range jumper over last few years. These are very valuable players in today's league. Noel isn't at their caliber, but he certainly has the upside to grow into one. (Remember the path Whiteside took to get to where he is today)

 

Joakim is not a good comparison to Noel. Noel is a much better finisher inside, he's averaging 18 points per 40 and shooting 61% right now, Joe never came close to those numbers.

 

The players you're describing as extinct are in the mold of Al Jefferson, Nikola Vucevic, Brooke Lopez, Enes Kanter, Okafor etc. Players who play on the low post and can't stretch the floor, could easily be shut down by the quicker and strong players like Lebron or Draymond or the modern day team defense. These players are immobile and are huge liabilities on defense, gets exposed when other team plays small ball. Noel doesn't fit that description.

As long as you can run the floor, finish around the rim, and play good defense, you aren't extinct in today's NBA, you just won't be the focal point of the offense like you would be 10-20 years ago. Check Dwight Howard, he is in that mold as well, he's still a strong contributor for the Hawks this year by doing just that.

DeAndre Jordan and Rudy Gobert. Whiteside to some extent, although he has developed a solid mid range jumper over last few years. These are very valuable players in today's league. Noel isn't at their caliber, but he certainly has the upside to grow into one. (Remember the path Whiteside took to get to where he is today)

 

Joakim is not a good comparison to Noel. Noel is a much better finisher inside, he's averaging 18 points per 40 and shooting 61% right now, Joe never came close to those numbers.

 

The players you're describing as extinct are in the mold of Al Jefferson, Nikola Vucevic, Brooke Lopez, Enes Kanter, Okafor etc. Players who play on the low post and can't stretch the floor, could easily be shut down by the quicker and strong players like Lebron or Draymond or the modern day team defense. These players are immobile and are huge liabilities on defense, gets exposed when other team plays small ball. Noel doesn't fit that description.

Brook Lopez is not extinct. He is hitting 2 3's per game and just became the first NBA player to record 6 3s and 8 blocks in a game.

 

Not sure how I forgot about Rudy Gobert.

I haven't paid attention to the Nets this year so missed on Lopez. It's crazy how these big men, Cousins, Gasol, Millsap, and Lopez to name a few, out of nowhere suddenly became legit 3 point threats.

So, Kyrie Irving says that he believes the Earth is flat and Draymond Green says he isn't sure. WTF?? I knew a lot of professional athletes were dumb but... I mean... that's a new level.

Edited February 18, 20179 yr by JenksIsMyHero

potential of Butler to Boston trade will loom over the entire week

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/video/woj-repo...-025519235.html

potential of Butler to Boston trade will loom over the entire week

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/video/woj-repo...-025519235.html

IMO, the chances of GarPax pulling the trigger on a Butler trade mid season is about as good as the White Sox winning 100 games. There will be a lot of talk for nothing.

I heard that the Butler/Boston stuff is false, and Wade/Butler have been recruiting Melo this weekend.

Yeah, i'm done with the all-star game. What a terrible weekend all around.

Yeah, i'm done with the all-star game. What a terrible weekend all around.

 

I DVRed the dunk contest. Any reason to watch or should I just delete it?

I DVRed the dunk contest. Any reason to watch or should I just delete it?

 

It's worth watching. There were a few nice dunks. But compared to last year's lavine/gordon showdown? yeah, it's a buzzkill.

I DVRed the dunk contest. Any reason to watch or should I just delete it?

I thought it was horrible. Even had multiple players performing the exact same dunk. Not worth it

Yeah, i'm done with the all-star game. What a terrible weekend all around.

 

It isn't entertaining anymore. It used to be that the defensive effort was lax but that the teams would play harder as the game went on if it was close. And the defensive effort while bad was never as bad as this joke of a game. The last two years have been unwatchable.

It isn't entertaining anymore. It used to be that the defensive effort was lax but that the teams would play harder as the game went on if it was close. And the defensive effort while bad was never as bad as this joke of a game. The last two years have been unwatchable.

 

It's been this way since 2014 and it's getting worse. Don't know what's happened. I guess it's just a generation thing.

Edited February 20, 20179 yr by Jordan4life

Boogie Cousins to Pelicans for an underwhelming package. NOLA came out a winner this weekend.

Boogie Cousins to Pelicans for an underwhelming package. NOLA came out a winner this weekend.

 

WHAT THE f***!!!!

I hope and pray the league doesn't step in Chris Paul to the Lakers style and veto this. Cousins/Davis will have opposing front-courts questioning why they're in the nba.

Yep, that's a nasty combination who can do it all. Would rival the Spurs twin tower duo for sure.