GreenSox Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Chris Sale brought 2 top 25 prospects and 1 good secondary piece. By that return, Abreu won't deliver a top 50. But, they can get a couple of good players and should still trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 31 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Whitley is the number 1 pitching prospect in baseball to some. He's not going anywhere. Certainly not for Abreu. Man you guys devalue Abreu. Have you looked at his career stats? The guy is an all star and more than that a good clubhouse guy, too. He's a fricking stud. He will bring a ton back. For the record, greg DOES NOT want to trade him, I've just accepted that he gawn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footlongcomiskeydog Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 2 hours ago, SoxAce said: C'mon Stros... aren't you guys good enough? But I'll take Bukauskas please and thanks. Bukauskas was there for the taking last year in the draft. Should have grabbed him or Faedo then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: Define top end. Top 50 overall? A- prospect? At best I think we could get a Rutherford type and a A ball lotto ticket. So something like a B guy and filler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I am going to go on record again to say that we aren't getting a top end player for Abreu. I'm on the record saying if we DONT get a top end or 2 player for Abreu that Hahn should be fired on the spot. He's as proven a player as you can acquire and he has 5-6 good to great years left. My gawd. Devalue your own some more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Just now, tlongo81@gmail.com said: Bukauskas was there for the taking last year in the draft. Should have grabbed him or Faedo then. well if your aunt was your uncle she'd have balls. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Just now, greg775 said: I'm on the record saying if we DONT get a top end or 2 player for Abreu that Hahn should be fired on the spot. He's as proven a player as you can acquire and he has 5-6 good to great years left. My gawd. Devalue your own some more. Ironic coming from a guy that thinks this is a 48 win team WITH HIM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said: Ironic coming from a guy that thinks this is a 48 win team WITH HIM. We are a 48, 49 win team IMO. You wait. That's our win total this season. I stand by that but NO WAY are we winning more than 53 games. And we won't win that many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Stuff Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I am going to go on record again to say that we aren't getting a top end player for Abreu. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Not sure what makes you think Abreu won’t bring a “top” prospect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footlongcomiskeydog Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 2 hours ago, fathom said: Yordan Alvarez is best we can hope for The kid is only 20 and is destroying AA to the tune of a 950 OPS. Sox should do it if he is available. Abreu deserves a chance to play in October. Trading him will also help the tank this year and next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 hour ago, DH in the NL said: Bukauskas has been on the 7 day dl for a month and a half. And our guy is out for the season with his second surgery.. If medicals check out, he's still a solid get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Define top end. Top 100, let alone top 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Greg, if you trade Jose, I would think you might.....might get a Blake Rutherford or Micker Adolfo as the the headliner. You cool with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, greg775 said: We are a 48, 49 win team IMO. You wait. That's our win total this season. I stand by that but NO WAY are we winning more than 53 games. And we won't win that many. Still waiting on to bet you on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Ironic coming from a guy that thinks this is a 48 win team WITH HIM. You should trade greg on the NYSE because you pretty much own him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, DH in the NL said: Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Not sure what makes you think Abreu won’t bring a “top” prospect? What similar hitters have been traded for in recent years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I would be surprised if we trade Abreu unless he is requesting one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Everyone should revisit the Martinez trade from last season. He's arguably a better hitter and look at what he brought back. FA status or not, that is not an impressive return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) Trading Abreu would net the Sox about 2 wins in the negative the rest of the way, maybe more depending on what pile of suck replaces him (although it's probably Davidson to 1st, Palka to DH, which might be OK), and move them up a draft spot or two. Something to consider. It's a hard call. It's why GM is a tough ass fucking job. I value Jose, love his professionalism, how he's worked on his body, and so on. I thank him for signing in spring when I saw him and all that he's meant to Chicago in his time here -- but if it's better long term to move him, well, you do it. Edited June 20, 2018 by chitownsportsfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 42 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I am going to go on record again to say that we aren't getting a top end player for Abreu. Agreed. People here overrate the hell out of him. I'd like to wait for the right package, but his value is limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Wow, this is great news! However, the Sox must be weary to not trade Abreu for a JD Martinez-like return. The astros are loaded with prospects that they can't seem to find positions to play. Abreu makes a lot of sense for them and they know they have another WS championship caliber team. Give me Tucker + JD Davis for Abreu + ____ (RP?). Am I crazy? PRobably. But I DO NOT trade Abreu just because. As others have stated -- he is the white sox soul. I go to the park to watch Abreu (and moncada). If you are trading Abreu, you need to get a return worthwhile. Bottom line and I don't care what 'standards' are set in place from previous trades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogsplash31 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I think Alvarez is probably the best they can get. Would love a Davis and Nova package, but that might be too steep for the stros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, Heads22 said: Greg, if you trade Jose, I would think you might.....might get a Blake Rutherford or Micker Adolfo as the the headliner. You cool with that? Do you really think Greg has any idea who those players are? Not to be rude but his understanding of the game is very limited and has reached its ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) Fangraph's primer from late Feb: Astros Top Prospects Rk Name Age High Level Position ETA FV 1 Forrest Whitley 20 AA RHP 2018 60 2 Kyle Tucker 21 AA RF 2019 60 3 Yordan Alvarez 20 A+ LF 2020 50 4 JB Bukauskas 21 A- RHP 2019 50 5 Hector Perez 21 R RHP 2020 45 6 Cionel Perez 21 AA LHP 2019 45 7 Freudis Nova 18 R INF 2021 40 8 Corbin Martin 22 A- RHP 2020 40 9 JD Davis 24 MLB 3B 2018 40 10 Gilberto Celestino 19 R OF 2020 40 Gimme the low level guys and as many as possible. Sox are already loaded with premium talent at most levels above low A, swing for the fences here with years 4-6 from now in mind. Their scouting of toolsy latin guys (and perhaps with rutherford) seems to have vastly improved. Put it to the test. Edited June 20, 2018 by chitownsportsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 This is just a panic move by the Astros since they haven't won a game in 24 HRs....Fleece em Slick Rick! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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