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caulfield12 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: They have to do a reverse CBT to penalize teams in different tiers spending under $100 or perhaps as low as $90 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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caulfield12 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Tnetennba said: I'm just happy Passan has a new baseball-related topic to write about finally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pcq Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 MLB has Sox opener April 8 at Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Reading the new agreement, I wonder if the new service time rule will backfire. Since the only oy the top few of the ROY finishers get the time, will teams keep the players down longer so he won't win the award? I don't see the draft pick compensation helping much because teams can only be in the top 10 every other year for small market teams and every third year for big market teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Those damned socials stopped us from controlling our BS narrative and it’s just SO unfair…🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, ptatc said: Reading the new agreement, I wonder if the new service time rule will backfire. Since the only oy the top few of the ROY finishers get the time, will teams keep the players down longer so he won't win the award? I don't see the draft pick compensation helping much because teams can only be in the top 10 every other year for small market teams and every third year for big market teams. Honestly it might do the exact opposite. You’ve got the number 1 prospect in baseball, you want him on your club and don’t want to keep him at AAA for a season and a half, you don’t want to lose the year of control if he wins ROY, so you bring him up the previous July rather than September or April so that he gets enough ABs that he no longer qualifies for the ROY award the next year. That’s the only way to guarantee he won’t win that award. The players would be totally ok with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 https://www.startribune.com/baseball-lockout-jim-souhan-the-never-going-back-crowd-will-be-soon-buying-13-ballpark-beers/600154818/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 43 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Honestly it might do the exact opposite. You’ve got the number 1 prospect in baseball, you want him on your club and don’t want to keep him at AAA for a season and a half, you don’t want to lose the year of control if he wins ROY, so you bring him up the previous July rather than September or April so that he gets enough ABs that he no longer qualifies for the ROY award the next year. That’s the only way to guarantee he won’t win that award. The players would be totally ok with that. But in this scenario he is already up for 1/2 a season and he begin the next season n the roster so they don't gain much more control of the player. If they wait the next July, they gain an extra year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirdGen Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Website not updated yet but Sox home opener 4/12 will have a 3:10 pm start not 6:10 as currently listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, ptatc said: But in this scenario he is already up for 1/2 a season and he begin the next season n the roster so they don't gain much more control of the player. If they wait the next July, they gain an extra year. Yeah, but you’re literally talking about locking some prospects who are ready enough to win ROY at AAA for a year or more. It might happen to one or two guys, but this would be very tough to justify and probably would provoke a grievance. Rare at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Yeah, but you’re literally talking about locking some prospects who are ready enough to win ROY at AAA for a year or more. It might happen to one or two guys, but this would be very tough to justify and probably would provoke a grievance. Rare at best. Possible. It will be interesting to see teams manipulate the rule once they have time to work with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: Honestly it might do the exact opposite. You’ve got the number 1 prospect in baseball, you want him on your club and don’t want to keep him at AAA for a season and a half, you don’t want to lose the year of control if he wins ROY, so you bring him up the previous July rather than September or April so that he gets enough ABs that he no longer qualifies for the ROY award the next year. That’s the only way to guarantee he won’t win that award. The players would be totally ok with that. Basically what the Sox did with Moncada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Basically what the Sox did with Moncada. Moncada was already on the 40 with major league time when we got him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Moncada was already on the 40 with major league time when we got him. Didn't he have like 20 at bats and a week or two of service with Boston, and then the Sox sent him back to AAA for half a season? Not sure that week or two really changes the point. He was still rookie eligible in 17, and didn't get enough ABs to truly garner any real ROY consideration even if he was good enough to do so (he wasn't). Edited March 11, 2022 by ChiSox59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Let our march to the 2022 World Series begin!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pcq Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I would prefer five teams per league in playoffs where 4-5 seeds have a three game play-in. With extra DHs this year maybe they should have kept the seven inning games for now. Also wondering if they will have enough pitchers to cover those games. I know some owners are cheep but they could have used expanded rosters this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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flavum Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Carson Fulmer is relieved hearing that rule 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Okay so not to be this guy but I am totally being this guy I've been too busy the past couple of days to read many details about the resolution of the various points of contention they had - can someone either summarize it for me if it's not too much trouble, or point me to somewhere that someone already did that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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