Bob Sacamano Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 09:52 AM) He signed a minor league deal with the Padres. Figure he'll get called up soon for them. Exactly. He can opt out for a mlb deal but Padres get first crack at adding him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 10:35 AM) He's not going anywhere. Let's bring up Robin replacements. That's another dead horse that could use a few more whacks. White Sox are in first place. How JR, KW and RH don't see massive changes need to take place at this point is hard to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 08:11 AM) Trade for CarGo at the deadline. Yes! If they do trade for him, hopefully its well before the trade deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 IMHO, if we make a big trade for a bat it could be in May or June ahead of the deadline. I'm fine with giving Garcia some more ABs then moving on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 There isn't an upgrade internally... so sit back relax and strap it down folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 09:15 AM) He's had 28 plate appearances. Let's give him a little more time. His BABIP is an entirely unsustainable .167. If it were the .320 mark he hit last year he would have a .280 batting average right now and we wouldn't be having this conversation. So far this year, albeit a small sample size, his FB% is up, his pull % is up, BB rate is up, K rate is down, pitches per plate appearance is up and his contact rate is up. All positive signs. Let's at least give him a few weeks before we try to magically save our season by calling up the likes of Travis Ishikawa or Jason Coats. For the record, I did say in the article that this wasn't saying it was decision time - but that in a month or two it could be. So this was more a table-setting article. QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 11:02 AM) There isn't an upgrade internally... so sit back relax and strap it down folks. I'd contend there are two or three guys that are upgrades, but that's because I don't think Garcia has improved or will improve demonstrably. I could be wrong, which, would be fantastic in this case. None of the upgrades are huge of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 11:02 AM) There isn't an upgrade internally... so sit back relax and strap it down folks. Yeah.. if they do upgrade the DH, it will be via trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 04:56 PM) White Sox are in first place. How JR, KW and RH don't see massive changes need to take place at this point is hard to believe. b/c the sox are in first place and the owners don't see a need, btw, it will take $$$ away from them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 That's fine, but the 2 catchers, 2B, LF and SS aren't hitting either. Now I realize the clear distinction between Avi and the players at those positions. But at some point, this goes beyond making dugout life pleasant for cooper and ventura. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skooch Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 10:55 AM) b/c the sox are in first place and the owners don't see a need, btw, it will take $$$ away from them How sports-savvy is JR? That is, how involved is he in the high-level decision-making process (as opposed to just the check-writing process)? Does he simply implicitly trust his guys (RH,KW) or is he also an idea-guy, ala Jerry Jones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 06:00 PM) That's fine, but the 2 catchers, 2B, LF and SS aren't hitting either. Now I realize the clear distinction between Avi and the players at those positions. But at some point, this goes beyond making dugout life pleasant for cooper and ventura. you bring up a very good point, however, the catching position thru out the league is really not in good shape. so trying to find a catcher who can play defense, let alone hit, is a rarity. but this is the DH we are talking about and the possibility of picking up a competent DH in the offseason to platoon. this could have been the excuse to use, and in case of avi failure, have him play full time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 QUOTE (skooch @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 06:01 PM) How sports-savvy is JR? That is, how involved is he in the high-level decision-making process (as opposed to just the check-writing process)? Does he simply implicitly trust his guys (RH,KW) or is he also an idea-guy, ala Jerry Jones? i will answer this with plain and simple hearsay. he makes the final decisions on everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 One guy who will get called up for baserunning and defense alone in September if the Sox are contending and he isn't hurt or traded is Engel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 11:55 AM) b/c the sox are in first place and the owners don't see a need, btw, it will take $$$ away from them Out of curiosity, when was the last big trade made during the second week of April in MLB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 12:32 PM) Out of curiosity, when was the last big trade made during the second week of April in MLB? Good question, was playing around with this tool for a minute. It's rare, that's for damn sure. Usually if any trades get done, they are for cash or a PTBNL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 12:32 PM) Out of curiosity, when was the last big trade made during the second week of April in MLB? Go to http://www.baseball-reference.com/friv/tra...date=2016-04-12, cycle through days and ctrl+F for "trade" to find historical trades by calendar day. Don't have time to search the whole month or anything, but the first couple of days haven't exactly revealed any league-altering moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I don't get the Ishikawa love. Avi is a better hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 05:32 PM) Out of curiosity, when was the last big trade made during the second week of April in MLB? and what logic are you using to ask this question. considering we or i was talking of making that extra acquisition to help the team... those parameters are usually for the offseason movements. as i also mention, the sox are screwed, the sox have no choice to wait it out. btw, why didn't you ask whomever created the thread, since it was their idea, not mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 12:42 PM) I don't get the Ishikawa love. Avi is a better hitter. There's no Ishikawa "love." But look up their lefty/righty splits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 12:44 PM) and what logic are you using to ask this question. considering we or i was talking of making that extra acquisition to help the team... those parameters are usually for the offseason movements. as i also mention, the sox are screwed, the sox have no choice to wait it out. btw, why didn't you ask whomever created the thread, since it was their idea, not mine. Yes, I am using logic. You posted the reason why the Sox aren't making any moves is because ownership doesn't want to spend money. I am attempting to show that no teams make big moves this early in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 QUOTE (shysocks @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 12:46 PM) There's no Ishikawa "love." But look up their lefty/righty splits. page 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 QUOTE (shysocks @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 05:46 PM) There's no Ishikawa "love." But look up their lefty/righty splits. i don't know if its a love per se, but what the sox have on hand to be used. meaning what internal options. i just hope things gets better, as someone said, it will take a month of so to figure things out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 12:49 PM) i don't know if its a love per se, but what the sox have on hand to be used. meaning what internal options. i just hope things gets better, as someone said, it will take a month of so to figure things out. The team is 5-2 and in first place. Why do you hope things get better? When people were booing Danks at the home opener the Cleveland broadcast crew said something along the lines of from the sounds of it, you would think the White Sox are 11 games back. Why can't White Sox fans enjoy 5-2? Avi has had a slow start and he probably isn't any good, but he is better than a .160 hitter with a .530 OPS. It would be shocking if Jose Abreu doesn't have a 7 game stretch where he puts up a .530 OPS or less. It happens. Edited April 12, 2016 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 12:49 PM) page 1 What does this mean? Are you pointing out that you would prefer Coats? That's fine, but you asked why the Ishikawa love and I answered that his limited appeal is he hits RHP better than our alternatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 12, 2016 -> 06:53 PM) The team is 5-2 and in first place. Why do you hope things get better? When people were booing Danks at the home opener the Cleveland broadcast crew said something along the lines of from the sounds of it, you would think the White Sox are 11 games back. Why can't White Sox fans enjoy 5-2? thing can always get better, like a 10 - game unbeaten streak. but seriously, i really can't speak for other fans or what they are thinking. i am wanting to concentrate on the good stuff this team can do. i just wish the owners would have gotten another hitter and another sp. same old pet peeve i am spouting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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