WestEddy

I wonder who made the decision for Yoan to not get an off day, or a brief IL stint. I'm not really in the "everybody should be fired" mindset, but you could tell he was hurt in the game before.

Sure, but when that production begins to look anything like the .238/.307/.483 and .283/.328/.406 batting lines he put up in AAA over the last 2 years over 446 and 302 PAs, that starts to take some of the fantasizing out of it, and you can begin to see a productive major leaguer. Will the league adjust to him? Yes, it will. Will he hit a slump and look like s%*#? Yes he will. I don't watch baseball to ignore the fun stuff and just look for things to be dour about. I watch it for the Yermin Mercedes start, and whatever run Garret Crochet goes on this year.

They're already on their way there. They just slapped together a ragtag pitching staff, and they've kept them in 10 of 11 games, so far. I think they already have a young core of Fletcher, Sosa, Colas and Lee who could at least start and be somewhere between replacement and average ML players. Add Monty, Quero, Ramos and Zavala to that, and you're already competing in this weak division.

My point is that nobody needs to temper their excitement. It's a rebuild. Enjoy watching the young guys get their shot and see who makes it. Hell, if everybody gets to dream on Popeye Rodriguez after zero sample size, why can't we dream on Korey Lee after a small sample size? I'd put up 2011 Adam Dunn for worst of all time. Fletcher's a rookie who had a slow start for 5 games, and needs to calm down in the field. I think he'll be fine.

Yes.

Why does excitement need to be tempered? Once one steps back and actually takes a look at some of the talent on the field, the path forward becomes clearer. It's almost like the entire team sat back and waited for Eloy, Yoan and Robert to put them on their backs. Now they all have to be the baseball players they're supposed to be.

U funny. I think you should look up the definitions of "hyped" and "fluffed". I said the bullpen and rotation could be good. So far, they have not embarrassed. I think I also said Fletcher had a ceiling of a 3-bWAR RF, and I haven't seen anything to really disprove that. Understanding a GM's stated reasoning, and waiting for it to play out isn't "complete support". The fact that you can't separate the two really gives you no room to lecture others.

I think the only people I've ignored are two Baltimore guys, and the Jerks dicks guy who keeps arguing that Earth owes rapists and abusers an apology for not liking rapists and abusers. Vastly improved my SoxTalk experience.

Who said it did? Are you so brain damaged that you have constant White Sox arguments going on in your head and you can't separate them? Fletcher's 5 hits in the last 5 games do make his own case better. You do understand that posting evidence (key word) of a pitcher not "immediately jumping into" the mid-90s has nothing to do with a hitter's stats from another organization, right?

Again, it's like you're pointing to the one fact that you've been able to wrap your head around for the last 4 months, and you're pretending it proves everything you've spouted all year. These guys are under contract. Getz had little else to do but assume he had a DH, 3B and CF relatively covered at least through the first 11 games. He certainly wasn't going to eat Eloy and Yoan's contracts and cut them because some dude on the internet would bray once they got injured. Not sure where you're going with this. There was no trade market for Yoan or Eloy.

And here's a picture of a sunrise!! Eat it, haters!! Still undefeated!!

Ho-hum. In other news, Cristian Mena pitched last Friday against the Sacramento River Cats. Nice outing. Went 6 innings, 81 pitches, and threw one pitch that touched 94. Had about half a dozen at 93.5. 91-92 the rest of the outing. Still no "jump to the mid-90's" some people talked about.

I'm not sure where you're going with this. Are you just picking up an easy win to dunk on everyone? "I knew the sun was coming up today!! All of you sun-deniers are stupid, and I'm smart!!!" It was not unreasonable to expect Robert to be relatively healthy this season. He just played 145 games last year. Eloy was moved to DH to expose him less. Both Eloy and Yoan expressed confidence in their offseason routines to play in most of our games. Nobody placed any bets. Nobody here was braying that the three would surely stay healthy all season. But it is silly to pretend that you had absolute knowledge that all three would be out 10 games into the season.

I kind of admire your style of chaos babbling. You're never arguing anything, specific, constantly complaining about anything, and wrapping it all into the same "should have signed stars" narrative that has no grounding in reality. The list of players you've listed out before would not have actually been a serious upgrade from what we had, or cannot even be said to have wanted to sign up for this situation. It was not unreasonable to rely on Robert to stay relatively healthy after playing a full baseball season. I'm not sure what better players (than Eloy or Yoan) you think were waiting for the Sox to call and sign them so we could just cut both. I'm pretty sure that Getz didn't ask Benintendi to be below replacement level, and didn't ask Vaughn to not hit. Benintendi was signed by the previous GM, and Vaughn was rushed to the bigs by the previous GM.

The point is to twist any situation into the narrative of "Getz is in over his head!! Every move sucked!!!" I suppose now that Robert, Eloy and Yoan are injured, the naysayers can go back to admitting that all 3 were developed during Getz's directorship, and those were development failures. LOL.

Nonsense? Having injury-prone players doesn't equate to "think they'd lose top 3 offensive players in the first 10 games".

Moncada and Robert were the two of the 3 highest OPSs in the lineup. Did you think Eloy was going to OPS .364 over a full season?

How is it failing to live up to the "help pitchers" line? The rotation has actually looked stable through 11 games, when the "organizational philosophy" here was that every starter would fail, to a man. Bullpen's been spotty, but one bad outing blows up a reliever's stats for a month.

What doesn't matter? The guys they want to gel and develop will continue to do so, and the guys who are probably ready will play in the bigs. WS2023 isn't mentioning an unprecedented loss of the 3 main offensive contributors.

Yes, converting Crochet to starting and Kopech to closing are abject failures. Iriarte and Thorpe are very good pitching prospects. And Steven Wilson might the 2nd best arm in our bullpen, right now. Yeah, all failures. Abject failures. LOL.

You seem to be conveniently omitting that the three guys who were supposed to buoy this offense, and make carrying the light-offense guys work - are all down in the first 10 days. And besides, Monty, Ramos and Quero are the guys they want to give time to develop. Not Lee, Sosa and Colas.

I'd stick with Kopech for the 2-inning save.

Shewmake is a AAA utility infielder. Jury's still out on Soroka and Lopez.