Snopek

Now that this thread has gone exactly as expected, can I take a moment to say something we should all be able to agree on? It's just really really nice not having to hear from Pedro Grifol anymore. (And no, this does NOT mean I think Venable should win manager of the year).

My bad then, but it was not obvious by any means with your choice of wording.

Man, I was in complete agreement with you for the whole post until this part at the very end. You lost me here. These type of comments never sit well with me. The assumption that because someone feels negatively about their team, they must be miserable in all aspects of their life (and are doing so by choice!) is incredibly judgmental and really just kind of misses the point altogether.

"This is a 100 loss team and you want to extend Getz?!" Did I do it right?

I like that he’s looked much better, but I have no interest in betting on him to stay healthy and productive moving forward. Not after getting burned by that sort of thinking with the last failed rebuild. And for the record, it bums me out that I feel this way about, but it is what it is.

Honest question for those of you “pointing out” that the team is actually still bad: Do you feel like you’re sharing new information that others were not aware of? Because it 100% comes off that way.

I feel like we could save 10 more pages of this thread if we just accept that the Sox failed Vaughn AND Vaughn failed the Sox.

People are wondering this?

Sure, but as a professional athlete, I think more accountability should be expected of Vaughn than your kid in these two scenarios.

Never forget though: Jerry Reinsdorf really loves baseball.

O this sounds blique

In addition to what everyone else said, pitchers already get hurt enough. They do not need the additional stress on their bodies.

Will occasionally forget it’s an air fryer and begin playing AM radio.

I guess, but it just sounds like every other post here. I’m not saying it’s wrong, but isn’t this all very obvious stuff to most of us?

Right. It’s pretty simple.

I was curious if there was another city that has 3 or more teams from the big 4 sports that could challenge Chicago’s misery. Thought maybe the twin cities might give us a run for our money and…

Just so I'm keeping score correctly...Getz gets blame for the developmental failures, but Hahn gets credit for the developmental successes because he's the one that acquired them? How dare you make me write a post defending Getz

Validate those feelings, Sox fans: https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/45344992/sports-misery-index

Yep. They could fill their lineup with a bunch of us from this board and still win 8-1.

Dang, you are REALLY high on Lenyn. But seriously, who did you actually mean when you said Sosa?

I don't hate the lineup. Benintendi the only uninteresting AB.

What in the Skip Bayless is this vibe?

His ability to ruin things he touches is almost impressive.

I’m surprised that some of you still seem to be deciding how good or bad the team is in 5 game increments.

Curious what you don't like about them because I think they're pretty damn good. They can be light and playful, while still telling you what's happening and why it's happening. Incorporate analytics without being over the top with them. Homers, but critical of the team when it's called for. Yeah, I watched a lot more Cubs than Sox in the first half of the season.