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No, I want titles.

I know you guys are frustrated with me. But you can't seem to accept my answer to this, which is for the front office to do a better job of assessing FA talent, signing FA talent that is not named LaRoche, also developing some of the first rounders we've had. You named a few of them: I actually was against adding Shark, Melky. I liked Thome, Robertson. But you guys can't accept that I blame individuals with offices on 35th and Shields for not being able to do what I want (win) the way I want (to win). I am of the contention that just because THEY couldn't do the job, it was NOT impossible to do the job. I don't appreciate this sudden desire to lose for gawd knows how many seasons.

Finally I feel a surge of moderate support. Keep it coming, folks!

1.) They all are trying. 2.) Absolutely nobody, that's my point. The roster is full of bad baseball players who are only capable of 48-55 wins. 3.) My beef is more with the front office concocting a roster that can't win even if the players try their best. Maybe the NBA tanking is a bit worse, but I'm not convinced of that. I want our team fined and I'd shut up.

Thanks for admitting it and backing me on this issue.

I guarantee you there are a lot of beer-swilling lifelong die hard Sox fans on the South Side throwing cans of cheap beer against the wall suffering through this crap. Some of you can write off seasons in hopes of 'wait til next year.' Some can't. If you can pay for the trips to the psychiatrist, send me the checks. Message boards are forms of therapy for angry fans, believe it or not.

Can't you get it through your mind that some fans are die-hard fans and have been all Sox all the time for a long time? We can't walk away or we would. It's ingrained. I bought mlb hoping to enjoy Moncada, etc. I didn't expect 48 to 52 victories for gawd sakes.

I'm being serious. I'll drop the topic if somebody can explain to me how this isn't blatant obvious tanking, trying to lose when that's against the mantra of sports and competition? I think it's one of my best examples ever. I'll give it one final shot then stop on this topic: Please please answer: Our team opened the season with MiGo and Shields as 2-1 starters and Nate and Soria as 8th-9th guys. That's not trying to lose 110 games?? I told you KC fans wanted to personally escort Soria to KCI for a plane to Chicago. Nate is unproven and frankly not good. ... And don't say the plan is to totally revamp at the break. There are no obvious plans to bring up the rebuild guys this season. Last chance for somebody to respond with a real response as I'm done with the topic in 3, 2, 1 ....

Sure. There's 162 games. No way the Sox are going to go 62-100. I'd bet you they lose at least 101. That's a lock for me.

It's a chicken and egg argument. Some fans like to win games and can't just write off seasons. I don't think that makes them bad fans. Not everybody can 'embrace the suck.' It's very difficult to do IMO.

I'm upset. I wish you'd respond to my point about going into a season with Shields and MiGo as 1-2 starters and Nate and Soria as 8th and 9th inning guys. I mean cmon. The Sixers weren't even this disingenuous. Right?? Pls. respond.

He may be implying Jake was a bit sloppy in his rehab, maybe not wearing the brace/boot. Sox have to move on. Jake's gonna be 23 next April. He probably won't play his age 23 season. He'll need age 24 season in AA or AAA. He'll be a MLB rookie at 25 if all goes well and he stays in good shape thru all this, etc. Sign Moose and go from there.

Good point fathom. You are on fire today with your posts. Only posts of yours I despise are the ones in which you are pining for the No. 1 pick. You are better than that. But, sir, your posts are otherwise 9s out of 10. Thank u.

Shameful is a good word. I truly hope the Sox get mocked in the media and everywhere during the three Cub massacres. I see no scenario in which the Sox win a game. It would have to just be one of those 60 that every team wins. Or in this case one of the 48 wins. I wish the commissioner would fine the Sox a LOT of money. Going into a season with Shields and MiGo as top two starters and Nate Jones (lol) and Soria (bigger lol) as your two late inning guys means you are trying to win 5-8 games a month ... PERIOD!! Fine the White Sox for making a mockery of baseball!! And do it now, mr. Commish.

A lot more than that, sir.

Do any of you agree with greg that he has a funky delivery. Looks painful to me. Let's win one, Sox. Palko is my new idol.

Poor guy. Not much you can say. He's 22 and out of action a long while. Will he be back for spring training? I like his bat but obviously Sox will have to move on. I'd expect a Moose signing and if Burger ever makes it back he'll be traded. Best luck JB.

Not really. Not if you are good every year. Makes for enjoyable summers. Then a year or two yo get career years and boom! A WS appearance. This way ... Sox have so many ifs, so much work to do. We shall see.

The old way should have worked fine. We won it in 05 and if you recall, everybody had us penciled in for continued sccess. It's the front office's fault for sucking and not keeping us atop a lousy division for years to come. I mean it's not my fault they failed at their jobs. Just as now you are hoping suddenly the front office can get this right doing it this way. I prefer the old way in which we should be good every year and then suddenly in a magic year catch lightning with good players having their career year and us winning it all!!!!

I love Lip Man but I find this interesting. You guys are on Ozzie for "quitting" on his team in a meaningless last week of the season. Yet Hahn purposely wants to lose 110 games this year. That's not "quitting on the team?" It's all relative. Ozzie had worn out his welcome. The Sox brass wanted to move on from the Ozzie era. Everybody knew it. Ozzie made the change possible by taking the Miami job. Quit on the team? What are several people in the Sox organization doing right now??? They quit so much we were out of the race two weeks into the season.

Stoney and Jason make this crap tolerable. They are a pleasure to listen to again tonight. I love their banter.

Ozzie's problem is nobody could convince him to shut up. He was a great baseball player. A great baseball mind as manager. The players loved him. The fans loved him. But his love of money and his ego got him fired. And fired in Miami too. If only somebody could have convinced him to stifle about controversial topics.

They showed highlights the other day of Ozzie. Now that's a baseball player. Now that's a baseball manager. Ozzie Guillen I love you!

Another blowout. My gawd we stink. This is again embarrassing.

I envision a USA with 80 percent of the boomers forced out of their homes and living on the streets when SS goes broke and medicare, etc. That's why Bernie has to come to the rescue. I'm ready to have the government pay for everything. Why? Cause of these crooked insurance companies refusing to pay for SERVICES rendered!!! We're all gonna go broke if we get sick. Sad sad sad.