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QUOTE (ecupittfan @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 10:58 PM) Maybe we can trade Robertson for a box of throwback jerseys. Same story every year. Sox wait way too long to make trades. I personally think we always overpay when we do trade. If they started the trade parade when I called for it a month ago, we might actually win a trade for once. By the time we trade Robertson he'll probably be as bad as Albers. My gosh, Hahn, why no trades a month ago???

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 05:16 PM) Hope there is a Sanders revolt. He, Biden, the Obamas, her husband....will all overshadow her speech. Kaine might be the only one who can't...he would make a better Kiwanis or Rotary Club president. You are right I think, though, the media will proclaim Hillary's speech the best ever. I predict they say they were brought to tears. Should be interesting to see how Hillary and the media handle the 'first woman' angle. It's kind of sexist for the TV coverage to be blubbering about it. I would think though that though a bit self-serving, it's her major selling point and she will hit it hard. If she keeps her female base happy/satisfied, she is in. She's already got the African American vote no matter what. That coupled with the female vote means a landslide victory. So I would guess she expresses how 'proud' she is, etc. over and over. I wonder if the pundits were honest they'd ultimately deem the speech very boring.

Is tonight's game really 6:10 as this thread says? I assume it's on national TV? Would not make much sense to make the players/fans come so early and have to stick around.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 05:50 PM) That will teach him. Great post again. You are on fire lately. I am not raging mad, but I don't think he should have been suspended at all. Make him pay for the uniforms. What the hell did he do that was so bad? He asked the team to not wear them. They should have figured something out at that point. I know you can't be bigger than the team, but don't forget you are dealing with an inept organization. Everybody in baseball with half a brain knows Ventura shouldn't still be manager and it's a joke he is. Cmon. Ventura has shown "beyond a shadow of a doubt" that this hasn't worked out. The way the Sox play, the clownish way the Sox have dropped games the last two seasons at least, has to be maddening to a competitor like Sale. Just maddening. The guy is so good compared to the rest of the bums on this team (apologies to Anderson, Abreu, Eaton, Robertson, Q, maybe Frazier) I think it's ok he freak out. He made the reasonable request and they denied it and he destroyed the jerseys. Fine. Make him pay for them. He's Chris Sale ... he should freak out having to work for these inept clowns. Repeat: Any organization that still has Robin managing at this point is not to be taken seriously. Case closed.

QUOTE (Green Line @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 04:07 AM) To the guys saying he was justified because "the jerseys were uncomfortable" Give me a freaking break! This dude is getting paid MILLIONS of dollars to pitch every 5 days. I would go out there and pitch in my birthday suit if they were giving me that much money. He is a child who must have never been told no growing up. Absolutely no sympathy. He was completely justified. If the jerseys are uncomfortable rip 'em up. I'm all for that. As long as he didn't wield his knife at any human beings, I think it's cool he freaked out. This team is a f***ing joke. Kudos to Chris. QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 04:47 AM) What he did to the jerseys was stupid. Having him not pitch because of it is more stupid. This is one perfect post. A Hall of Fame post. I like it. To have him not pitch because of that is beyond insane. My gawd we need a housecleaning. Jerry please sell this club!!!! You have the one ring; that's all u are going to get. Mark Cuban ... please. QUOTE (Green Line @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 04:48 AM) He's a loyal guy? Is that was he was being during Spring Training when he publicly threw his boss under the bus and embaressed the organization? He was loyal to Drake, I suppose. How can you back his "boss" and this organization over Chris Sale? Seriously. Think what you are saying here.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 03:28 AM) Hopefully, making his team pay for his immaturity will make an impression on him. Cmon. You think his teammates feel let down? This is millionaire baseball. They know Sale's a f***ing stud and KW and the rest of the suits are clowns. This team proved long ago this season it's not a "team." They don't give a f*** what Sale did. He backs it up with performance. He's the best player on the damn team; he can do whatever he wants.

Sale will go on and dominate for years to come; our Sox sadly were a one-hit wonder (2005). It was a glorious year and I thank you White Sox forever for that. But wow I am a fan of a crap organization. I back Chris Sale 100 percent? Why? Cause he knows management blows. If it's not the uniform it's LaRoche or something else. Sale is elite; our management team is not. Can anybody dispute that?? I know it's a travesty to say this. I almost wish they traded him to to Cubs now just so he could no hit us this season then win three games in the WS. Long live Chris Sale!

I'll back a player like Chris Sale over our s*** management team anyday. He's produced. They haven't. Except for what sadly turned into that one year wonder called a WS title. I will always shake KW's hand and Oz's hand for that and Jerry but this organization blows. More power to Sale. Those uniforms do suck.

I fully support Chris Sale on this. The way our organization is run right now is a disgrace. This is a very dismal time for the White Sox. The team is going nowhere and Sale is one of the very very rare bright spots. If he's totally uncomfortable wearing those uniforms he should not pitch in them. Good for him. I'm sure nobody asked the players if they were OK with them and on the same page. The five prospects we get for him better be pretty damn good.

QUOTE (juddling @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 09:27 PM) And Hillary could get up on stage, pull a puppy out from under her podium, say to the crowd "f*** puppies" and punt it 40 yards and all the media(and her supporters) would do is spend the next few days saying the puppy deserved it. It's amazing that all the reporters are Democrats. They are so in favor of Hillary it's obscene almost. If I were Trump I would take the direct approach with a bit of humor. Go ahead and announce at the first debate, I respect my esteemed opponent's right to run for President, but in protest of the FBI email case I'm going to refer to her as CH for Crooked Hillary. And then just keep saying Crooked Hillary or CH when referring to her.

Pitching Albers is just conceding another game. Pretty poor when an organization is so poor it has to concede a game. Doesn't have anybody to pick up a spot start. Trading Sale is a very bad idea. If you are gonna trade a guy you don't handle it this way. I'm telling you, organizations are quickly evaluating huge-name prospects that they believe will be like Avi, flops. Those are the guys the Sox will acquire. Remember how high a draft pick Beckham was?? This is how you sit in last place for 5-10 years. Making bulls*** trades at the wrong time. Our trade window has already closed for this year as far as I'm considered. Highway robbery coming.

The Sox are so irrelevant right now. Even some people on this board recognized and realized this team is not a contender long ago. And just now Hahn says something about being mired in mediocrity and may change/sell. WTF. Show some leadership and figure it out after the 23-10 start turned to mush. The team folded like a wet blanket after the disaster game. The team had played enough games vs the Central for anybody with half a baseball brain to realize the team is toast again for this season. I've been clamoring he start the trade parade for at least a month. He's a millionaire and a baseball genius. He should know how to assess teams/talent better. Now, f***, he's going to start selling now?? After proclaiming that the team is mired in mediocrity? Once again, GMs have a chance to start thinking about ways to fleece the Sox. They can start thinking about name prospects they have that they've started to lose faith in to dump on the Sox. Simply ridiculous. These trades he makes may ultimately turn the Sox to even a worse team for some time to come if the fleece scenario happens. I'm very disappointed. Why not be the leader for once and he could have started selling parts when it was damn obvious this team reeks. And it's pretty obvious. I don't know how in the hell they have flirted close to .500. That's a miracle in itself. ALL THAT SAID, Mr. Hahn, don't trade Sale or Q or Abreu or Eaton or Anderson. Get some better coaches to work with Abreu for gawd sakes and trade virtually everybody else u can. No value in those others? I dunno. Do you job make it happen. Or wait til the offseason now that you've blown it again with inaction and your stupid interview about mediocrity.

I've been busy. What the hell is our record after the all star break? Doesn't it reek? Poor Mourneau. Our record reeks with him even though he's doing OK. More losses to the Central as expected. It was time to sell weeks ago! Hahn should be ashamed for waiting waiting waiting. This isn't the year we're going to turn it around vs. the Central.

I was wrong on the double woman ticket. Didn't think I'd be wrong on that one.

You know I am not in favor of trading Sale. I am in favor of selling selling. It makes no sense. What you do is keep Sale and Q and Abreu and Eaton and Anderson and absolutley trade everybody else and try again. It's almost too late already. We're waiting too long again this year and I don't like it.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 06:06 AM) A speech that will go down in history. The energy in that building was insane. Been very busy this week and haven't been able to watch. Are u serious? Was it a good speech by Trump? Highlights?

That was one of those games that Hahn and Robin would take every single night. Play like that and you are a contender. But we all know this team isn't consistent. So happy for Q. He gets the win. Frazier has 27 bombs. As much as I rip him and others do, that's a lot of bombs. He's gonna hit 40.

As far as the Central, If Cleveland takes 2 of 3 in KC this week, it's over for KC. They're done. If KC sweeps which they've managed to do when on the carpet before, they still have a chance. However ... the Royals really have no business being in the race. Gordon is hitting just over .200 right now, about .210. Cain has been hurt. The starting rotation has been awful except for Duffy and I guess Ventura (taking the games against the Sox out of the equation when all the Royals pitchers and hitters have looked like all stars). Soria has really hurt them. He's a very lousy back end of the bullpen guy. Horrific on the road (cept in the Cell where they are 5-1) the only sign of the confident World Champs has been at home where they've still had some magic. They have a streak where they lose eight of 10 again, you can put a fork in their wild card hopes. They're about dead now.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 01:03 AM) The time for talk is done. It's about to get super bloody and hopefully after the dust settles, we'll realize, "you know, we're all humans... let's stop these shenanigans..." Well, if the country has declared a war on police, they are going to have to respond. No cop wants to die on the job. I mean there are going to be a lot of commands, "Put your hands on the steering wheel NOW" after simple stops. Also if there is a car stranded on the road I dunno if cops will be stopping to help. Could be a fricking ambush.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 05:49 AM) THIS If we wait too long again to pull the trigger on trades I don't want any til the offseason. If the Sox wait and wait and make the third or fourth deal before the deadline, I sense they will be lousy trades again. I want us to steal some good players and do it now before other teams gobble up said prospects.

QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 04:01 AM) I might have worded it poorly, but we're just not going to agree on this. If a guy is playing horribly and killing his team, I don't appreciate seeing him ham it up at a pointless exhibition during a potential break. I'm as big an internet message board dick as anybody, but even I disagree with this. Cmon, let him have some fun in the Home Run Derby. It was good to see a White Sox in the final. I don't think it harmed anybody. I don't think it probably hurt Frazier at all. QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 05:52 AM) My wishful thinking was it'd loosen him up and make him play better. Good way of looking at it. The greatness in the dugouts could also rub off on him. Let's face it. The White Sox are at a low point in their history right now. Not a contender and far from being a contender since Robin's first year. We've had 3-4 years of suckiness. Nice to see some positive press for the White Sox at the HR Derby.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize things haven't worked out very well in the Robin era. That'd be funny if after we get eliminated in early September the Sox dominate the rest of the month and he stays again, lol. It'll be hard to fire him if they rattle off 10-12 wins in a row to end the season.

Thing is ... Sox fans I believe are finally in favor of selling a ton of players. It's not like this method of hanging around .500 is accomplishing anything. The last two seasons have been PAINFULLY difficult to watch with the exception of April this year. If the Sox think April was no fluke, then get a fricking new manager to see if this tactic can get us a playoff berth. If not, SELL and see what happens. You can sell a ton of players and still keep the nucleus of Sale, Q, Rodon and Shields with Nate as the new closer. Rebuild the rest of the team. Keep Abreu and Eaton if you must. And of course Anderson.

Sell. I've already bored everybody with my list of players to dump. I will summarize and quickly add. ... • Package Frazier and Robertson this week. Get this ball rolling. • Trade Shields and get a TON for him. He could be very very valuable to a contender. Get it done soon. Before we're settling for scraps. • Trade Melky but rob somebody blind. Get good players for Melky Cabrera!!! NL to the Giants or somebody. • Trade both catchers ASAP. Try to get a young reliever in both deals. Somebody might want Navarro for pinch hitter or experience down the stretch. • Trade Lawrie and Duke in a package. Try to get a couple guys who are under 25. Don't settle. Somebody will want Lawrie and Duke. • Trade Avi to an NL team where he can try again. Get what you can. • Trade Shuck. I've probably forgotten some. TRADE TRADE TRADE. Keep Eaton, Abreu, Sale, Q. I wouldn't be against keeping Shields either. Sale, Q, Rodon, Shields is a decent four for next season.

One run in three games is another LOL. I picked up Weaver for one day to bolster my 3 fantasy teams. Of course he was available in all 3 leagues, lol. I knew that was a lock for a good boost to my staff numbers this week. Time to drop him. Look I love Anderson. I am not blasting him. But he's down to .279. Before you freak out on me, I think he should be sent down the rest of the year. Why? He's had a nice run where he got his feet wet. But he has to learn how to take a walk. Take what he's learned up here and go down and finish up strong and incorporate taking some pitches into his game. Nobody said it was easy. If he stays up, he's likely to soon be in the .220 range and nobody wants that. I'd send Anderson down for the final phase of his seasoning. Look ... he can't survive with this approach. But he has shown so much talent. Our team is going nowhere so I'd suggest sending him down. COMMENTS???