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QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 06:54 AM) I'd be very surprised if you even got that. I suspect now more than ever everyone returns next year, KW, Bell, Robin and his cadre of clown coaches. It's really hard to find any silver lining for the franchise in all this and it's worse with the Cubs seemingly figured it out enough to look like they could be a factor for years to come while the Sox keep "hoping" they can figure something out. Mark I believe Mark is right, but with the Cubs dominating, the Sox enter next season in deep trouble. They'll get no publicity and no fans if Robin and the clowns come back. We're not going to suddenly get good, folks. They may have to clean house just to save the franchise in Chicago. Fans aren't dumb. It's gonna be repeat of this year. The Central has Robin's number. Gotta try a new manager and staff and get rid of LaRoche, Melky, Lexi, et. all!

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 08:13 PM) I'm not sure what your obsession with Jimmy Carter is all about or why you think he is "ultra intelligent"... I just think he's brilliant and one of the greatest individuals to be President. His intelligence cannot be questioned. And he is full of faith in God, so I see it only natural as I would point to Jimmy as somebody to solidify my position that there is a God.

Keep hearing intelligent people say Hillary is not going to win. Don't know what they're drinking/smoking but I can only hope/dream. I wonder if this Ben Carson guy is the answer to our country becoming great again.

Nice hit by Saladino to win it BTW. I still think he's a utility guy but I could see him getting a shot at second base, not third. In theory you need more pop in your third baseman and shortstop. However, baseball is becoming a game in which very few players can hit .300 so I don't know what to think about the future of the game. Maybe .240 will be considered "good."

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 01:33 AM) This year gets worse by the day. No one is going to hire Kenny Williams for gosh sakes. You fire him or keep him. No team wants that guy. He exudes ego and doesn't have the resume to back up his ego.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 10:16 PM) It is too bad this team has been so good in extra innings. If it wasn't for the fluky extra inning record we would be in great shape for a really high draft choice. It doesn't matter where you draft. You're going to get a good player allegedly in the top 15 picks. Who cares if they pick No. 4 vs No. 10. Not me.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 08:11 PM) Religion occurs even in societies or groups without any significant hierarchy. They typically serve many purposes including explaining the unknown, maintaining order in society via moral codes, and uniting individuals into a group to achieve common goals. Elements of culture are subject to selection just like genes. Religions have tended to be some of the most successful cultural adaptations in history. I think it's a little conspiratorial to imply that religious leaders are all just power elites looking to control people rather than devout believers themselves. There certainly are charlatans, of course (I'm looking at you Prosperity Gospel preachers and cult leaders). I don't think guys like Jimmy Carter would be practicing their faith if they thought all the leaders were in it for the wrong reaons.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 02:21 PM) The Sox have been the place where veteren hitters go to die. It really boggles my mind. Melky had been a pretty good hitter, even post roids. Then it stopped. Bringing him in was the right thing to do, it just didn't work out. We saw when he was going good for awhile that the Sox were a fairly decent team. His inability to sustain that success is puzzling. To me that falls on the guy no one talks about, and that's Todd Steverson. There's such a negative vibe going on surrounding Robin that Todd seems to get no blame whatsoever. With the pitching the Sox have, I just can't bring myself to thinking they should do a complete rebuild. Maybe you "Throw in the towel" on 2016 and let the kids play but come 2017, when you can potentially throw out a cheap rotation of Sale-Q-Rodon-Fulmer-EJ, there's no way I wouldn't try to compete. Sadly this most likely would mean hitting on a couple FA hitters, and also swinging a trade that more that likely would feature the likes of Montas, Danish, and Micah. I can envision the 3 year plan we hear about. Steverson has the cliche going, that he's a brilliant mind. Walker was a buffoon. No reasoning behind the cliches. I read somebody no hitting coach alive can get a veteran to listen. That's why there are so many shifts. They are uncoachable.

When there are men on the base the Sox are especially overanxious. Second and third one out and they get the one in on Eaton's first pitch grounder.

The way the defense was playing, Saladino with a smart at bat. Not enough of that in baseball today.

I didn't want to start a new, negative thread but I got to thinking that this may be my least favorite White Sox season in the last 20 years. Do you guys agree? Has it been that bad for you? Sox got swept in the opening series and played generally bad baseball all year. Except for Saladino's quick start and Trayce's performance there's been nothing good to happen offensively. The new guys Melky and LaRoche were so bad right out of the gate it really made me mad. The defense and baserunning was so bad most of the season, not to mention the awful decisions by the first and third base coaches that it truly made this my least favorite season in 20 years. Now the only way to cap it off and make it truly abysmal? Stagger in and continue playing like total s*** against the divisional teams this final month. A 10-20 record the final month would be icing on the cake and par for the course. Do u all agree with me about how much this team blows and has been so so painful to follow more than other Sox teams?

QUOTE (TRU @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 04:43 AM) And like I said, more power to you.. but soon the most important thing that will happen on Sundays for me is having the right fantasy football lineup set and watching the Dolphins hoping they finally get their s*** together.. Life is short, believe what you want to believe and do what you want to do, as long as youre happy I couldn't give two f***s about what you believe in I will. I just tried to be nice after your insulting statement: "it doesn't exist but if it helps you get through your day then more power to you.. I don't know how we got here or why we are here, but I have more important things to think about and deal with in my short time on this earth and id rather not waste it believing there's some mystical being that I need to follow his rules or I go to a bad place when I die.." I also have important things to do, believe me.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 27, 2015 -> 01:49 PM) At this point, if you're rooting for the best pick available or a protected pick, just root for 5th in the division. Division games are 80% of the schedule after this week. Don't have to "root" for fifth in division. Those losses will take care of themselves. Sox aren't going to suddenly play well in divisional games the final four weeks. QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 04:11 AM) 10-15 in the final 25 division games. 4-4 against the Yankees and A's. Win tomorrow. 75-87. 9th pick. I think they could go 7-15 in the division games and 2-6 vs the Yankees and A's. Where would that put them closing out the season 9-21?

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 03:56 AM) Melky competes and gives effort start in and out as well. Perhaps Danks isn't the biggest issue on the team, I suppose some of my picking on him was because I was replying to you, but Melky isn't the biggest problem either. Melky is really a bad baseball player any way u slice it. He's another guy who should be a utility player. Sox roster is full of those guys.

Where do the Sox rank if you pencil in a minimum of 1-5 in the final six versus KC? Sox figure to go 0-6 or 1-5 vs KC. I think we have the worst team in the league to tell you the truth and it will probably come to fruition with our record in September.

QUOTE (TRU @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 03:17 AM) I would say this is completely false as there have been plenty of times where a tragedy has happened and the response has been that was gods plan for them.. I lost twins to a miscarriage 2 years ago, I had people tell me they were in a better place now and that god has a plan.. I would rather have my two kids I never got to meet than to be subjected to whatever gods plan was.. Of course, this is just one personal example but its absolutely something that has been said before.. I don't believe in god, I am not an atheist, I am a realist.. To me believing in god is like believing in magic or aliens.. it doesn't exist but if it helps you get through your day then more power to you.. I don't know how we got here or why we are here, but I have more important things to think about and deal with in my short time on this earth and id rather not waste it believing there's some mystical being that I need to follow his rules or I go to a bad place when I die.. Sorry about the loss of your twins. Truly sorry. I don't know why people would tell you that, but I would just say I'm sorry and ask if you needed anything. You said: "I have more important things to think about and deal with in my short time on this earth and id rather not waste it believing there's some mystical being that I need to follow his rules or I go to a bad place when I die." That's cool. That's your prerogative. In my case, I also have "more important" things to do than go to church on Sunday as I'm pretty much tied to my job as most workers are nowadays. But in my case the best hour I spend all week is the one I get to spend in church every Sunday; sometimes I go during the week as well, but not that often. I find it inspiring to see a packed church and enjoy inspirational music and readings with all these people praising God. I think it's great. I don't think I'm "wasting" precious time "believing there's some mystical being." I know where you are coming from though. My family members are the same way. They wouldn't be caught dead wasting an hour of their weeks at Mass. They will go on Xmas Eve though which is always nice. I don't push it on them but I do enjoy my time spent in church and don't think I'm wasting my hour.

Is this a wraparound four game series where we can get swept? Or just three losses? Aren't we getting close to season-worst in terms of games below .500?? Good job Robin. Good job Coop. Good job hitting coach; I won't dignify using your name cause I forgot it.

Geez, what is Sanchez doing there? Guessing fastball and waving at two balls in the dirt? Ridiculously bad at bat. Sox lose again. Wretched baseball team. Horrid season.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 03:51 AM) Eaton walked to bring tying run to the plate and you would have never known by his tone Fair nuff. But he went wild on Saladino's hit.

Nice hit Abreu! Not to be an utter dick, but the rally stops here, right now. (good job, Abreu though).

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 03:44 AM) Feel free to show the slightest bit of excitement Chuck. How come u guys don't like Swirsk? Glad Saladino got that hit. He'd been struggling.

Eaton got lucky there. The ump should have rung him on that letters high strike. It wasn't a ball. Sox need some heroics like a rare long ball.

QUOTE (TRU @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 01:20 AM) When someone tries to sell me that a child getting murdered was "gods plan" for them, that's about enough for me to turn my head at that nonsense. Whoever says that has an incorrect stance on the matter. Nobody ever says that. God is the rock that helps people through those tragedies. He's going nowhere except to be a steadfast rock for people. Someone has told you a death of a kid is God's plan? When? Where? QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 01:33 AM) Religion has simply been an attempt to control the middle class and poor throughout history and keep them relatively passive/obedient. I don't know about that. Like I was saying, some ultra intelligent people (JIMMY CARTER) believe in the whole entire shebang. God as master of the universe; sitting on a throne, etc. You can't deny some INTELLIGENT people believe and are not believing to be controlled.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 29, 2015 -> 08:28 PM) Please just stop. The police officer had 2 young kids and a wife. Yes I'm upset.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 29, 2015 -> 08:45 PM) If anyone on this team is a "big-time problem", it's John Danks, not Melky. Cmon. I can start listing guys WAY worse than Danks on this team. Danks has at least competed and given effort start in and out. Some of these everyday players are stealing money (again) this season.