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QUOTE (glangon @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 11:39 PM) 23 blown saves we had last year. Robertson saved 39 out of 44 chances last year, Take that he blows 5 of the 23 we blew. Simplistically, we'd have won 18 more games with Robertson as closer. That would have taken us 91 wins. That is worth the $11.5 million a year we are paying him. Great post. It's always good to have a closer with a track record. Not meaning to start a fight here, but is this guy a LOT better than Addison Reed? But having a closer is great cause we can put some of those other guys in the battle for setup guys. It really was annoying last year seeing our guys blow game after game. I hope he gets off to a good start and is an effective closer all year. QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 11:53 PM) What would be great is if Davidson bounces back and wins the 3b job, which is not out of the realm of possibility, and that allows Gillaspie to fill that role. Great point. Just imagine if Davidson wins the job and fulfills the promise the Sox obviously thought he had. Would be amazing if we had a power bat at third and he could field at least as good as Gillaspie.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 01:00 AM) For us out of town White Sox fans you have to tell us more about his rep in Chicago. Most baseball fans outside of Chicago know Robertson but the Shark is just some guy whose name no one can pronounce. Till the Cubs traded him to Oakland, I thought he was a reliever. I can not read this whole thread. Tell me about Michael Ynoa please. Who is he? I love all of Hahn's moves, but I can't pretend these guys will pan out. You never know nowadays. But I've always been a free agent guy, Dunn notwithstanding, so bring em in and let em play. Interesting that Beane thinks Phegs and Semien can play. Could really backfire on the Sox if they are stars.

So we got a closer, we got a righthanded starter to go with our other 2 great starters and Danks, we got a slugger. i'll hand it to Hahn. ON PAPER, he's turned the Sox into division favorites. How can you not win with 3 good starters (I'm not sold on the ex-Cub), a new bullpen set-up guy, a closer and a slugger to go with Abreu? Now it's up to the f***ing players to produce. Sox are division favorites now, even with the bad defense. p.s. sorry to see Semien go. Not convinced the ex-Cub is great. I'll give Hahn the benefit of the doubt. He's made moves that on paper make us the favorites. We'll see if in reality it happens. Getting greedy, it'd be nice to see an upgrade at one of these two spots (catcher and/or third base).

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 07:43 PM) Hey if the Sox do lose Semien ,which you would be upset about ,how would you feel if the Sox re-signed Gordon Beckham as Semien's replacemnt ? After all Gordon hit lefties for a .293 BA last year and might even play a better 3rd base than Marcus The Beckham ship mercifully has sailed away from the South Side.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 07:34 PM) "White Sox: Micah Johnson, Trey Michalczewski, Nolan Sanburn" I think I would be OK with that deal considering I do not think Hahn would acquire Shark unless he was very confident in resigning him. Sounds like Sox are going to overpay to get this guy. Dumb.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 05:03 AM) No, I want to add the penalty if you can prove she made the whole damn thing up. Not being able to prove they did it is one thing. but when it can be shown that you just plain outright lied, because the guy didn't call you back, you saw deep pockets or some feminist group convinced you you had repressed memories, you are the one deserving of punishment, not the person you FALSELY accused. And FYI, being wrongly accused is also pretty traumatic, I can attest from first hand experience back in 1987. I am just glad they didn't have the kangaroo court s*** back then that they do now, even though I was still not allowed in any dorm except mine and was suspended from my sports teams. I was able to show that I was with other people the night in question and even out of town the next two days, justin case she had her days messed up. (She had made the claim saying it happened the prior weekend, so I can't imagine her messing the days up that badly) I had stopped dating the person over a month prior, and she had tried to get us together again more than once, with me saying no each time. I guess she just got mad or something, I don't know, was never allowed to ask or know what her replies were when shown proof that I wasn't there any time she claimed I was, or even near it. But I still got a lot of weird looks the rest of my junior year and even the next. I did nothing wrong, yet my senior year dating was pretty much non-existent and I still heard whispers at parties. That's rotten you got falsely accused. And awful it ruined your senior year as well. I'm not trying to be insensitive to women, but yes, some will make the s*** up to get even with a guy who breaks up with them when they don't want to break up. If it's proven the woman is lying, yes she should face consequences. Your case proves not all allegations are true.

There are two sides to every story. The frat should have had a chance to deny or say no comment. It's just one person's allegations, apparently. You can't run the story without contacting the frat's lawyer or dig a little deeper.

I think a ton of people have gotten in trouble over "social media" posts. It's easy to be a tough guy on the internet. I hope tons of people get arrested/thrown in jail for internet threats.

QUOTE (Tannerfan @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 01:20 AM) Thank you. I got one more; Send Robin Ventura to an improv class at Second City so his press conferences become slightly entertaining. One thing the Sox front office has to love about Robin is how boring he is. After Ozzeroo, whom I love of course, the franchise still is enjoying the calm water I'm sure. Ozzie on a daily basis could say ANYTHING as we all know.

I don't know why Melky is a possibility. Sox shouldn't touch that guy IMO. I hope somebody else signs him so he gets off the board soon.

Protestors forced some stores to close on Black Friday. America is pretty pissed and protesting.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 02:38 PM) No work today, but working tomorrow. Have 7 employees who don't have any vacation time to use tomorrow so they have to work. I opted to come in so the supervisors could take the day off. Favorite thanksgiving foods are mashed potatoes and fresh rolls. That's cool so many soxtalkers work hard. Also neat you go for mashed potatoes. Seems too ordinary to be a favorite, but I have to agree I get psyched for mashed pots and rolls, too. Can't beat a hot roll.

Makes sense as one of the cheaper free agents.

I'm in Florida for Thanksgiving, but I wondered why we have no holiday threads on Soxtalk. Year went by awfully fast. Happy Thanksgiving. My question to you is: What is the favorite food you cook and eat today, or your wife cooks and you eat today or your mom cooks or your in laws cook that you eat today. I will say pumplin pie is gross and I hate sweet potatoes. I love my mom's dressing and mashed pots probably more than anything. Also like her rolls and my sister's green bean casserole. If I could have only one thing it'd be mom's dressing. GO SOX!

QUOTE (ptatc @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 06:14 AM) For fast food 5 guys is the best. There is a place here where the owner takes a ball of Blue cheese, wraps it in hamburger then wraps it in bacon. After he cooks it it is about the size of a 12 inch softball. You need to let it cool for 20 miutes then pop it. It deflates to an inch and a half patty. It is the best bacon blue burger created. Five guys is damn good, but a tad greasy. I know, greasy is good. And the fries there suck. Don't get me wrong, still like it. Best burgers: InNOut burger is damn good. Good shakes too. Funny how many people still go to McDonald's. I must say if I'm starving I can wolf down one of those double quarterpounders. I hate Smashburger.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 25, 2014 -> 02:20 PM) Rioters are going after other cops families and homes. Sounds like a reasonable reaction. I do not wish to say Greg told you so, but some of you blasted me for predicting the riots that would happen after the verdict. Since nobody is patting me on the back I thought I'd remind you that I'm not always wrong about stuff. I still stand by my statement they should have announced the verdict at 9 a.m. I think that makes a lot of sense.

He definitely did NOT pass the eye test but did a nice job for the most part. Don't think he's a big leaguer in terms of talent.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Nov 25, 2014 -> 07:36 AM) They are already starting to go outside of the city of Ferguson which I am sure they will continue to do At least that makes sense and may get some of those looters/burners killed. They try to burn down some neighboring towns? I wouldn't think that would go over too well with the cops in those towns. Some heads are gonna be busted I bet.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Nov 25, 2014 -> 07:30 AM) This will continue for multiple nights, probably a week or longer. Should be enough time to burn down ALL the businesses in town and all the vehicles in town. Maybe they'll start burning down their own houses, too. So stupid. By now we ALL know the outrage, people of Ferguson. We know you are sad and furious and ashamed to be living in America after this decision. So unless you want to move, you better stop destroying your own town. You know, none of those businesses are going to rebuild. Most towns want to attract new business; guess you all want to just end the existence of your city.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 25, 2014 -> 05:16 AM) Injustice!! Burn that little Caesars! Amen. It makes so little sense. It's like the folks of Ferguson are saying, "We're mad as hell ... so we must burn down ALL OUR BUSINESSES, and ruin the lives of our business owners, folks just as upset at the grand jury decision as we are! Yes, let's burn down all our businesses and we'll have no town to live in! That's what we do to show we're upset. Ruin our own town!!!" QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 25, 2014 -> 07:00 AM) I don't know why I bother with you, greg. Clearly you do not read anything you respond to. If they announced it at 9 a.m. on Tuesday morning, the rioting would begin at nightfall on that very same day. The national guard already had days to prepare. Nothing would be different. But this way, innocent people had plenty of time to get to their homes. I just happen to disagree with you, that's all. If they had to, then, call off school on Tuesday in advance of a 9 a.m. decision. If there still would be riots once it got dark at 5 p.m., at least it wasn't all set up like tonight. It was all too much a perfect storm. Wait til it's dark, announce, and on cue, film the folks burning and pillaging.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 10:46 PM) I think with a little kid, I would be more willing to take a risk that maybe the gun is fake or if it is real the kid doesn't even know what he's doing with it. I think I would rather take the risk of getting shot at than to shoot a little kid. I could never live with that. Amen. But that would take high quality, top notch police work. Some people are giving the cop such a free pass. If the guy does an exemplary job, no 12 year old dies.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 25, 2014 -> 06:54 AM) I assure you that if they waited until morning to make the announcement, the riots and looting would begin when nighttime rolls around. They announced it at night so that the innocent people who work or go to school would have ample time to get home safely before it began. If they announced it at 9 a.m., Tuesday, nothing would have happened at 9 a.m. The Army would have had all day to prepare for nightfall. A whole day would have passed. This is just f***ing ridiculous setting the city on fire. The announcement and presence of all the media at nighttime was setting it up on a tee, just daring the people of Ferguson to, on cue, pillage the town. Very very sad.

So people of Ferguson are burning down the city of Ferguson tonight. That makes so little sense. Just go ahead and turn your own city into a burned up ghost-town. Ridiculous. I tell you. Sometimes the people in our great country are just downright stupid. This makes no sense to burn down their own town. And how f***ing stupid to announce this at night. Announce it at f***ing 8 a.m. People LOOT at night. They BURN at night. The light of day is much different. Stupid assholes announcing the decision when they did. Why not wait until morning?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 09:10 PM) But you don't know that and the concerned citizen didn't know that, hence why he called the cops. Being "ok" with it and not wanting to make the tragedy worse by ruining the officers life even more (the guilt and PTSD for this will be life long probably) are two different things. No one thinks a 12 year old being killed is "ok." And when you get shot and killed for waltzing up to someone who is waiving a gun in the air we can all be "ok" with the fact that Darwin won again. This is the really annoying commentary permeating the country in response to these shootings. You and others have this mentality that cops are mythical figures that can do the right thing 100% of the time. Cops are people. People make mistakes in judgment in emergency situations. People fear for their safety. Cops in particular are targets of violence. Why cops have to risk their lives even more than they already do to make someone on the internet using hindsight feel better is beyond me. If a cop walks into a situation with a potential gun toting person, young or old, and that person doesn't comply with orders and becomes a threat to the safety of the officers or others, the decision of the person in that situation - not the person sitting on his computer reading articles about what happened - should prevail. Yes, there should be a review. Yes, there should be some bar that a cop has to meet before using deadly force. But absent something practically egregious, you don't second guess that decision because no one can replicate that moment. None of this "but maybe there was time to try X and Y, and why didn't they at least try this or that." You know what, I look at the cop's situation in terms of his having a job to do. I also work for a living and am under contant scrutiny and get yelled at or fired if I do a poor job. I think this cop did a very poor job. I may be wrong. That's how I feel. My bottom line is he is in a dangerous line of work and he didn't need to shoot to kill a 12 year old. It's a more serious line of work than mine, but in judging him before seeing the tape, I think he gets a big, fat FAIL for what happened. At this point in time I think he should definitely find a new line of work. Again, if this proves false when the tape comes out, my bad. I'm going by what I've read which is a dangerous thing to do in the day and age of social media.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 08:38 PM) What part of "person with a gun" and "scaring others" would make a sane, rational person just waltz on over to see what is going on? Assuming all the facts are true, I see nothing but a tragedy all around here. You've got a concerned citizen doing their job, a cop doing their job, and a kid being a dumb kid. It doesn't sound to me like the scene was threatening. Again, it sounds like the kid was more an irritant than a threat. Nobody was fleeing or anything because of this toy gun. If anybody was really worried they'd be heading out of there. If we're at the stage of our lives people can accept 12 year olds getting killed in a situation like this, I think we're at a bad stage. Not saying you, but some people seem OK with the outcome. I'm saying if the situation had played out like I am thinking it played out, yes I probably would go over to the table and say something or grab the toy gun. Would I get punched by the kid's parents or maybe even the kid? I guess. I'm anxious to see the tape which exists. Again, I'm going more by "12 year old kid" in this deal. Twelve year old kids are not all that menacing. Now could a 12year old cause trouble with a real gun? Sure. I do think the cops have to be fired in this case. There had to be a different outcome than this one. How bout using a tazer? Oh I know, they don't always work. I guess the 12 year old might have only been knocked off balance a bit with a tazer.